[Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems

Fri Jul 31 11:24:32 EDT 2009

Guys,

Don't you wish some details could be available from GB?  I won't ask, but maybe he would respond to you.  The chainplate integrity is a major issue, and no-one knows better the suggested approach and technique than the plant guys!  Does Lou or someone have recommendations?

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Sent: Jul 31, 2009 11:13 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>
>Ron,
>Thanks for the photo.  If you would, please take photos and describe
>your repair from here on.  I've got the same issue I need to address in
>the off season so I'm very interested in your efforts. - rob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:23 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>
>I took my drill and dremel to the mooring this afternoon.  Made two
>holes in
>the
>cabin before I really understood how the chainplates are attached.  I
>have
>enclosed
>a picture of the 2" (or so) square that I cut out to remove the rotten
>plywood.
>
>At the moment my plan is to make a "temporary" repair by drilling
>another
>hole
>in the chainplate through to the cabin roof.  I will fill the open area
>with
>some G-10
>(epoxy fiberglass) scrap that I should be able to find and epoxy that in
>above the
>chainplate and anchor the fiberglass through the hole in the chainplate
>and
>G-10
> to a plate on the cabin roof.  I will thread some holes in the G-10
>which
>will
>allow me to screw in a cover plate. I will try to make a clean repair
>next
>spring.
>
>Ron
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Ron
>>
>> I have to say that when I put in my Beckson portlights in 04 I could
>> see the chainplates but to access them in a serious way to
>> replace them you need to make the cut and work that way.  There are
>> so many ways to patch the job so no one will know.  It will be faster
>> and safer to just cut the area away.
>>
>> just my 2 cents
>> Lou
>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 4:02 PM, John Shulick wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Ron,
>> >
>> > Looking at the chainplate repair pictures you MIGHT be able to
>> > access that
>> > spot thru the window I see in that picture. It dosen't look easy
>> > but with a
>> > mirror and some special (custom bent) tools you might be able to
>avoid
>> > cutting up your cabin.
>> >
>> > good luck
>> > John S
>> >
>> >
>> > Ronald Lipton-3 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the information.  In looking through the archives it is
>> >> not
>> >> clear
>> >> exactly how the existing chainplates are attached.  My
>> >> understanding from
>> >> the notes is that the chainplates are flat stainless steel which
>are
>> >> bent at one
>> >> end and screwed into the plywood deck core.  Slim's pictures show a
>> >> shorter
>> >> plate which only extends about 5 or 6 inches below the deck.  I
>> >> just need
>> >> to go in with a battery powered dremel (I am on a mooring) and take
>a
>> >> look.
>> >>
>> >> I will take pictures.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ron
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James Barron wrote:
>> >>> Ron:
>> >>>
>> >>> We had a similar problem last month, and got a helpful response
>> >>> from Mary
>> >>> Lou Troy, copied here:
>> >>>
>> >>> __________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>> "Looks like your chainplate is no longer properly attached.
>> >>> Hopefully
>> >>> someone with some experience with this will speak up. I do
>remember
>> >>> it being discussed on the list so a search of the archives might
>> >>> turn
>> >>> up something. I found this one:
>> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2008-August/
>> >>> 053374.html
>> >>> and this one
>> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2007-June/
>> >>> 041943.html
>> >>> and didn't look any further. There's probably more. I did a Google
>> >>> search for:  chainplate site:rhodes22.org
>> >>> Once you find a relevant message you can go to that month in
>> >>> archives
>> >>> at Rhodes22.org and see the entire discussion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Mary Lou
>> >>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> >>> Rock Hall MD"
>> >>>
>> >>> ______________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>> I searched through the archives for other information or ideas,
>> >>> but these
>> >>> seemed to be the best.  I have
>> >>> not yet attempted to repair this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Barron
>> >>> 1996 R22 recycled 2007
>> >>> S/V Puffin
>> >>> Rocky Fork, Ohio
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From:       Ronald Lipton
>> >>> Sent:       Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:16 PM
>> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> >>> Subject:    [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>> >>>
>> >>> After a windy sail with my daughter this morning I noticed that
>the
>> >>> starboard aft chainplate
>> >>> is beginning to pull out of it's support.  The chainplate appears
>> >>> to have
>> >>> pulled up
>> >>> about 1/4" and pulled the cover and two screws out.  I did not
>> >>> have time
>> >>> to
>> >>> look at
>> >>> the problem in detail, we had to leave the boat fairly quickly.
>> >>> I just
>> >>> tried to tape it over enough to prevent further water
>infiltration.
>> >>>
>> >>> Has anyone had a similar problem?  How are these chainplates
>> >>> attached to
>> >>> the
>> >>> boat.  It
>> >>> looks like I would have to cut through the cabin liner between the
>> >>> windows
>> >>> to get to the
>> >>> chainplate.  is that correct.  Any help or advice would be
>> >>> appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ron
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