[Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems

Ron Singerman sail at tds.net
Fri Jul 31 11:29:27 EDT 2009 

If memory serves me correct, when Slim did his chainplate repair it was done 
in consultation with Stan.

Fair winds,

>>ron<<

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems


> Guys,
>
> Don't you wish some details could be available from GB?  I won't ask, but 
> maybe he would respond to you.  The chainplate integrity is a major issue, 
> and no-one knows better the suggested approach and technique than the 
> plant guys!  Does Lou or someone have recommendations?
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>Sent: Jul 31, 2009 11:13 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>>
>>Ron,
>>Thanks for the photo.  If you would, please take photos and describe
>>your repair from here on.  I've got the same issue I need to address in
>>the off season so I'm very interested in your efforts. - rob
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
>>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:23 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>>
>>I took my drill and dremel to the mooring this afternoon.  Made two
>>holes in
>>the
>>cabin before I really understood how the chainplates are attached.  I
>>have
>>enclosed
>>a picture of the 2" (or so) square that I cut out to remove the rotten
>>plywood.
>>
>>At the moment my plan is to make a "temporary" repair by drilling
>>another
>>hole
>>in the chainplate through to the cabin roof.  I will fill the open area
>>with
>>some G-10
>>(epoxy fiberglass) scrap that I should be able to find and epoxy that in
>>above the
>>chainplate and anchor the fiberglass through the hole in the chainplate
>>and
>>G-10
>> to a plate on the cabin roof.  I will thread some holes in the G-10
>>which
>>will
>>allow me to screw in a cover plate. I will try to make a clean repair
>>next
>>spring.
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> I have to say that when I put in my Beckson portlights in 04 I could
>>> see the chainplates but to access them in a serious way to
>>> replace them you need to make the cut and work that way.  There are
>>> so many ways to patch the job so no one will know.  It will be faster
>>> and safer to just cut the area away.
>>>
>>> just my 2 cents
>>> Lou
>>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 4:02 PM, John Shulick wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Ron,
>>> >
>>> > Looking at the chainplate repair pictures you MIGHT be able to
>>> > access that
>>> > spot thru the window I see in that picture. It dosen't look easy
>>> > but with a
>>> > mirror and some special (custom bent) tools you might be able to
>>avoid
>>> > cutting up your cabin.
>>> >
>>> > good luck
>>> > John S
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ronald Lipton-3 wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the information.  In looking through the archives it is
>>> >> not
>>> >> clear
>>> >> exactly how the existing chainplates are attached.  My
>>> >> understanding from
>>> >> the notes is that the chainplates are flat stainless steel which
>>are
>>> >> bent at one
>>> >> end and screwed into the plywood deck core.  Slim's pictures show a
>>> >> shorter
>>> >> plate which only extends about 5 or 6 inches below the deck.  I
>>> >> just need
>>> >> to go in with a battery powered dremel (I am on a mooring) and take
>>a
>>> >> look.
>>> >>
>>> >> I will take pictures.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ron
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> James Barron wrote:
>>> >>> Ron:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We had a similar problem last month, and got a helpful response
>>> >>> from Mary
>>> >>> Lou Troy, copied here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> __________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Looks like your chainplate is no longer properly attached.
>>> >>> Hopefully
>>> >>> someone with some experience with this will speak up. I do
>>remember
>>> >>> it being discussed on the list so a search of the archives might
>>> >>> turn
>>> >>> up something. I found this one:
>>> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2008-August/
>>> >>> 053374.html
>>> >>> and this one
>>> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2007-June/
>>> >>> 041943.html
>>> >>> and didn't look any further. There's probably more. I did a Google
>>> >>> search for:  chainplate site:rhodes22.org
>>> >>> Once you find a relevant message you can go to that month in
>>> >>> archives
>>> >>> at Rhodes22.org and see the entire discussion.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mary Lou
>>> >>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> >>> Rock Hall MD"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ______________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I searched through the archives for other information or ideas,
>>> >>> but these
>>> >>> seemed to be the best.  I have
>>> >>> not yet attempted to repair this.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jim Barron
>>> >>> 1996 R22 recycled 2007
>>> >>> S/V Puffin
>>> >>> Rocky Fork, Ohio
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From:       Ronald Lipton
>>> >>> Sent:       Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:16 PM
>>> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> >>> Subject:    [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate Problems
>>> >>>
>>> >>> After a windy sail with my daughter this morning I noticed that
>>the
>>> >>> starboard aft chainplate
>>> >>> is beginning to pull out of it's support.  The chainplate appears
>>> >>> to have
>>> >>> pulled up
>>> >>> about 1/4" and pulled the cover and two screws out.  I did not
>>> >>> have time
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> look at
>>> >>> the problem in detail, we had to leave the boat fairly quickly.
>>> >>> I just
>>> >>> tried to tape it over enough to prevent further water
>>infiltration.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Has anyone had a similar problem?  How are these chainplates
>>> >>> attached to
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> boat.  It
>>> >>> looks like I would have to cut through the cabin liner between the
>>> >>> windows
>>> >>> to get to the
>>> >>> chainplate.  is that correct.  Any help or advice would be
>>> >>> appreciated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ron
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>>> > --
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