[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble

Lowe, Rob rlowe at vt.edu
Fri Jun 12 10:54:20 EDT 2009 

Ben,
I was going to suggest the vent on the tank.  It's easy to overlook and
it's happened to others before. - rob


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Thanks Folks;

I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back there.
We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
stalling
out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a vacuum to
build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts
(smooth
operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix. 

Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that "Sunday
Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife works
for
CBS), or something else?

Ben



Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> 
> After you get the cover repaired  ( I second Dave's repair method) you
> might 
> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
> motor 
> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit.  I
also 
> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I am

> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning, in
the 
> marina.
> 
> Fair winds,
> 
>>>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
> 
> 
> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism.  I would epoxy
> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
> through.  If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with fiberglass
> cloth inside.  All available at West Marine or another marine supply
> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy.  Others on
> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
> 
> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the nuts
> and bolts are secure.  My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
> moment just from a nut working its way loose.  It wasn't pretty.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
replies.
>>
>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
cracked
>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm 
>> concerned
>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top
of a 
>> new
>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also don't
>> know
>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
using
>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed
that's 
>> what
>> I'll do.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>
>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good
mechanic
>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>
>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns
and
>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor locked
-
>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>
>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>> worried it might?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM,
BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the next
4
>>>> months
>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
magnificently
>>>> for
>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the Shrewsbury

>>>> River
>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>> cruised
>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9
Yamaha
>>>> began
>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to restart
>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for ten
>>>> minutes
>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of
the
>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>> slip.
>>>> I'm
>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty of
>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the
marina
>>>> where I
>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I 
>>>> asked).
>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter
and
>>>> die
>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some as
it
>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
trying
>>>> to
>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the centerline
and
>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>
>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the
bridge
>>>> tender
>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm
told I
>>>> am
>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
considering
>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> BenCittadino
>>>> Highlands, NJ
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