[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
fcrawford0707 at aol.com
fcrawford0707 at aol.com
Sun Jun 14 15:22:36 EDT 2009
Ben - surely no offense about questioning my name - happens often, as you can imagine. ? And thanks for your location.? We have not been to that part of the NJ shore, but it must be temptingly close to a trip to NY Harbor.? Regards, Frone
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From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
Frone;
Thanks for the history on your boat and the name. Sorry I questioned your
given name; if I had checked the archives I would have seen that you are in
fact Frone, and it was not a typo. I once got in a little trouble on this
very list in assuming a name to be male when it was female; I ought to just
take people at their word.
Anyway it sounds like you live near your boat, at least in the summer, which
I envy. I live in Princeton year-round and the boat is an hour (or more)
away in Highlands. The Marina is Sandy Hook Bay Marina, slip B-43. An LBI
sail does sound doable someday. Let's let that percolate.
Please let me know if you ever plan to be up this way.
BenCittadino
FCrawford0707 wrote:
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> Ben - We purchased Sunday Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of time
> chewing over possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a bunch of
> such names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but Andy, my wife,?
> wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end primarily because we
> thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who can account for taste ?!!??
> I see that you are a North Jersey guy - I have from time to time thought
> that the NJ Rhodies should work on a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe
> somewhere along LBI, as it is roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon and
> we sometimes cross paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another from
> Stone Harbor - don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay can entice us to
> LBI sometime.?
> ?????? Frone (not a typo) Crawford
> ?????? s/v Sunday Morning
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> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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> Thanks Folks;
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> I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back there.
> We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
> stalling
> out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a vacuum to
> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts (smooth
> operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix.
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> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that "Sunday
> Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife works
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> CBS), or something else?
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> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
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>> Ben,
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>> After you get the cover repaired ( I second Dave's repair method) you
>> might
>> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
>> motor
>> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit. I also
>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I am
>> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning, in the
>> marina.
>>
>> Fair winds,
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>>>>ron<<
>> S/V Serenity
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
>> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism. I would epoxy
>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
>> through. If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with fiberglass
>> cloth inside. All available at West Marine or another marine supply
>> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy. Others on
>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
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>> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the nuts
>> and bolts are secure. My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>> moment just from a nut working its way loose. It wasn't pretty.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Dave
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>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>> replies.
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>> cracked
>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm
>>> concerned
>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top of a
>>> new
>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also don't
>>> know
>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
>>> using
>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed that's
>>> what
>>> I'll do.
>>>
>>> Ben
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>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good mechanic
>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>>
>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns and
>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor locked -
>>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>> worried it might?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the next 4
>>>>> months
>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran magnificently
>>>>> for
>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the Shrewsbury
>>>>> River
>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>> cruised
>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9 Yamaha
>>>>> began
>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to restart
>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for ten
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of the
>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>> slip.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty of
>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the marina
>>>>> where I
>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I
>>>>> asked).
>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter and
>>>>> die
>>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some as it
>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>> trying
>>>>> to
>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the centerline
>>>>> and
>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the bridge
>>>>> tender
>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm told
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but considering
>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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