[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
BenCittadino
bencittadino at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 16:53:30 EDT 2009
Frone;
Precisely 12 nautical miles from my slip to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge and
4.6 NM from there to Lady Liberty herself. Perhaps some day soon with a
fearless crew...... (it is a bit crowded).
We could even plan a "fly-by" with Elle to take a postcard shot of my rhodes
with the Lady in the background. Can't get too close (security area) but
pretty close. Can't get in any more trouble than Air Force One, right?
Best,
Ben
FCrawford0707 wrote:
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> Ben - surely no offense about questioning my name - happens often, as you
> can imagine. ? And thanks for your location.? We have not been to that
> part of the NJ shore, but it must be temptingly close to a trip to NY
> Harbor.? Regards, Frone
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> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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> Frone;
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> Thanks for the history on your boat and the name. Sorry I questioned your
> given name; if I had checked the archives I would have seen that you are
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> fact Frone, and it was not a typo. I once got in a little trouble on this
> very list in assuming a name to be male when it was female; I ought to
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> take people at their word.
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> Anyway it sounds like you live near your boat, at least in the summer,
> which
> I envy. I live in Princeton year-round and the boat is an hour (or more)
> away in Highlands. The Marina is Sandy Hook Bay Marina, slip B-43. An LBI
> sail does sound doable someday. Let's let that percolate.
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> Please let me know if you ever plan to be up this way.
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> BenCittadino
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> FCrawford0707 wrote:
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>> Ben - We purchased Sunday Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of time
>> chewing over possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a bunch of
>> such names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but Andy, my wife,?
>> wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end primarily because we
>> thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who can account for taste ?!!??
>> I see that you are a North Jersey guy - I have from time to time thought
>> that the NJ Rhodies should work on a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe
>> somewhere along LBI, as it is roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon
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>> we sometimes cross paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another from
>> Stone Harbor - don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay can entice us
>> to
>> LBI sometime.?
>> ?????? Frone (not a typo) Crawford
>> ?????? s/v Sunday Morning
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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>> Thanks Folks;
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>> I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back there.
>> We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
>> stalling
>> out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a vacuum to
>> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts
>> (smooth
>> operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix.
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>> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that "Sunday
>> Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife works
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>> CBS), or something else?
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>> Ben
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>> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
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>>> Ben,
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>>> After you get the cover repaired ( I second Dave's repair method) you
>>> might
>>> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
>>> motor
>>> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit. I
>>> also
>>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I am
>>> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning, in the
>>> marina.
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>>> Fair winds,
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>>>>>ron<<
>>> S/V Serenity
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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>>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
>>> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>>> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism. I would epoxy
>>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
>>> through. If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with fiberglass
>>> cloth inside. All available at West Marine or another marine supply
>>> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy. Others on
>>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
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>>> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the nuts
>>> and bolts are secure. My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>>> moment just from a nut working its way loose. It wasn't pretty.
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>>> Good luck,
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>>> Dave
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>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>>> replies.
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>>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>>> cracked
>>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm
>>>> concerned
>>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top of
>>>> a
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>>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also don't
>>>> know
>>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
>>>> using
>>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed that's
>>>> what
>>>> I'll do.
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>>>> Ben
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>>>> David Bradley wrote:
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>>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good mechanic
>>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>>> dissolves the crud.
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>>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns and
>>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor locked -
>>>>> much less strain on everything.
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>>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>>> worried it might?
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>>>>> Dave
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>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the next 4
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
>>>>>> magnificently
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the Shrewsbury
>>>>>> River
>>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>>> cruised
>>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9 Yamaha
>>>>>> began
>>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to restart
>>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for ten
>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of the
>>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>>> slip.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty of
>>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the marina
>>>>>> where I
>>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I
>>>>>> asked).
>>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> die
>>>>>> only to restart immediately?
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>>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some as
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the centerline
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
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>>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the bridge
>>>>>> tender
>>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm told
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
>>>>>> considering
>>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
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>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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>>>>> +1.206.234.3977
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