[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Sun Jun 28 20:35:34 EDT 2009 

Jerry,

That seems like a lot of tricky threading of rode while making your way
forward.  Then you're going to toss the anchor?  Do you time the toss when a
wave is heaving the boat, or on the drop?  And when you're heaving, how do
you keep the rode, with wind blowing and the waves rolling, from hanging up
on something, like a winch, pulling the boat into a broach?

As for motoring into the wind, yes I do use use the main sail to stabilize
the boat.

We should meet up on the lake sometime.

Rick

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:03 PM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:

>  Very good point,Rick. I do have a small lake mindset,but I have been out
> on Lake Erie when  a storm blew up,and if your more than a mile from
> protection,you better have a good storm plan ready.I think I would still
> leave the anchor,and rode on the cockpit floor,secure the tiller,grab the
> bitter end of the rode and the last 20 feet thread it outside the shrouds
> on the port side and in threw the bow pulpit and the fair lead and cleat
> it.Once back in the cockpit,Idle the motor and put in nutrual,when the
> waves start pushing the boat backwards,heave the anchor as hard as I can
> to port and forward. Then I would feed out the rest of the rode, tossing
> the last 20 feet or so still in a coil to port and pray for a good hook.
>
> When motoring into a storm,do you put a little sail out to ease the motion
> of the waves? Which,both or neither?
>
> Thanks for giving me something I can use later
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>  Jerry,
> >
> > That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet.  But how would that work when the
> > motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
> > along
> > with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and any
> > crew
> > have turned green?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
> >> rubbermaid
> >> container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20 feet
> >> of
> >> the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let off,and
> >> then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside of
> >> the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
> >>
> >> Jerry Lowe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
> >> > anchor
> >> >  chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
> >> looking.
> >> >
> >> > Rummy
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > OK  Rummy, you caught me on one point.  I do sometimes lug from the
> >> > cockpit
> >> > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
> >> > swishing
> >> > it around in the water.  And if admiral complaints of smell  from the
> >> > anchor
> >> > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce  (that's not in
> >> the
> >> > admiral, but in the locker.)
> >> >
> >> > I've been on a boat  that has the anchor chain draped around the
> >> anchor.
> >> > It
> >> > is pretty  noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I wish
> >>  to
> >> > maintain.  My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from  the
> >> > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain in
> >>  and
> >> > out.  (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when  handling
> >> > anchor
> >> > tackle.)
> >> >
> >> > As for the venturi effect, I've found the  scoop effect more
> >> effective.
> >> > But
> >> > whatever works best for  you.
> >> >
> >> > Rick
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Gentleman,
> >> >> Leave the  chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so it
> >> is
> >> >> always  handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary and
> >> >>  creates
> >> >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific  standpoint, the
> >> >> cowl
> >> > is
> >> >> designed to work best with it facing away from  the wind direction.
> >> This
> >> >> eliminates any water from entering and  creates more ventilation.
> >> It's
> >> >> all
> >> >> based
> >> >>  on the venturi  effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the cockpit
> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> bow  and  connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work than
> >> > trying
> >> >> to
> >> >> pull and  stuff crap through the cowl vent. All  the water and mess
> >> from
> >> > the
> >> >> anchor line  stays in the cockpit and  not in the cabin. Many areas
> >> >> don't
> >> >> have nice sandy  bottoms so  the anchor line will start to smell just
> >> >> like
> >> >> the
> >> >> bottom  conditions.  Your admiral will not appreciate that damp muddy
> >> > flats
> >> >> bottom crap smell being  in her cabin.
> >> >>
> >> >>  Rummy
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com  writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> Lee,
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy  the rode and chain  through the
> >> hole.
> >> > I
> >> >> think taking the  locker in and out would be worse  than retrieving
> >> >> tackle
> >> >> from the  cockpit.
> >> >>
> >> >> I disconnect the chain for  storage.  Since  my hand just fits
> >> through
> >> >> the
> >> >> hole, and I'm afraid of  breaking  my wrist during a rock 'n roll, I
> >> use
> >> >> a
> >> >> messenger line tied to  the  cap to start pulling stuff out.  I'm
> >> > re-posting
> >> >>  pictures from a few  months ago of how I do that.  You can't see
> >> the
> >> >> mono-filament  messenger line very well, but it is tied to  the big
> >> loop
> >> > in
> >> >> the  rode.
> >> >>
> >> >> To dry out the locker,  point the scoop into the wind when there  is
> >> no
> >> >> water
> >> >> in  the wind.  I generally use a cap when there is no need  to
> >> ventilate
> >> > the
> >> >> locker or v-berth.  Also, if you want to ventilate  the  v-berth when
> >> >> the
> >> >> wind
> >> >> is wet--no problem because the water  will just  collect in the
> >> locker
> >> >> and
> >> >> dry
> >> >> out  later.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26,  2009 at 8:39  AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>  >  Rick,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you use the anchor rode  locker?  If so, what  technique do you
> >> use
> >> > to
> >> >> get
> >> >>  > the rode in and out of the locker.   I'd prefer to use it as
> >> >> designed
> >> > if
> >> >> > there's some easy way to do  it.  I even  thought about taking the
> >> > locker
> >> >> in
> >> >> > and out with  each  use but I didn't want to disconnect the anchor
> >> >> from
> >> >>  the
> >> >> >  rode.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think someone on this  list said that the vent scoop is  designed
> >> to
> >> >> face
> >> >> >  aft away from the wind.  Mine has always faced  forward.   Should
> >> I
> >> > turn
> >> >> it
> >> >> > around?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lee
> >> >> > 1986 Rhodes22  At  Ease
> >> >> > Kent  Island, MD
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rick-139  wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >  Cowie,
> >> >> >  >
> >> >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn  it  into the wind.
> >> Do
> >> > you
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > > a
> >> >> >  > nylon  screen covering the ring?  If not, cutting one to fit
> >> will
> >> >> tighten
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > vent plus keep  out the bugs.
> >> >> >  >
> >> >> > > The vent should  ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker  under
> >> >> the
> >> >>  deck.
> >> >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would   prevent you from
> >> > using
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > locker.  However,  there are some  people on the list who prefer
> >> to
> >> > lug
> >> >> > >  their
> >> >> > > anchor  tackle from the cockpit.  If you  want to join them, the
> >> fan
> >> >> vent
> >> >> >  > will
> >> >>  > > give you better day time ventilation in the the   v-berth.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Rick
> >> >> > >
> >> >>  > > On Thu, Jun  25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
> >> >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> >> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> >  >
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent  on  the bow and like the functional
> >> quality
> >> >> of
> >> >> it
> >> >> >  >> but
> >> >> >  >> have a couple of questions.
> >> >>  > >>
> >> >> > >> The  cowl vent slips onto a plastic  ring that slips into a deck
> >> >> fitting.
> >> >> >  >> Looks  like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and
> >> can
> >> >> be
> >> >>  > >> replaced
> >> >> > >> with a plastic cover that  seals  the deck opening while the
> >> deck
> >> >> fitting
> >> >> >  >> remains in  place.  Recently the cowl vent has come loose  from
> >> >> the
> >> >> >  plastic
> >> >> > >> ring. Is the cowl  vent supposed to be able to turn  around the
> >> > plastic
> >> >> >  >> ring
> >> >> > >> in order to face the  prevailing wind  or is the cowl vent
> >> supposed
> >> > to
> >> >> be
> >> >> > >> glued  to  the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn in
> >> the
> >> >>  deck
> >> >> > >>  fitting?  The cowl vento portion is so  loose I worry it might
> >> go
> >> >> >  >> overboard.
> >> >> >  >>
> >> >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3"  solor day/night  fan.  Has anyone
> >> >> installed
> >> >> this
> >> >> > >>   and
> >> >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent?  I  like  the idea
> >> of
> >> >> being
> >> >> > >> able
> >> >> >  >> to use both options  but don't know if they are easily
> >> > interchangable.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >  >> I also see  that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen.  Can this be
> >> >>  insterted
> >> >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
> >> >>  >  >>
> >> >> > >> Thanks
> >> >> > >>
> >> >>  > >>
> >> >> >  >>
> >> >> > >>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p24211017/88.jpg
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