[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
cjlowe at sssnet.com
cjlowe at sssnet.com
Sun Jun 28 22:49:38 EDT 2009
Gee Rick,you are just full of good questions today. DON'T take that
wrong,I'd much rather ask and answer these questions sitting in my living
room in front of a keyboard,than at the helm,in a storm.But it's bedtime
now,so lets figure this out tomarrow.
And I would like very much to crew for you sometime on the big lake.
Thanks,
Jerry
Jerry,
>
> That seems like a lot of tricky threading of rode while making your way
> forward. Then you're going to toss the anchor? Do you time the toss when
> a
> wave is heaving the boat, or on the drop? And when you're heaving, how do
> you keep the rode, with wind blowing and the waves rolling, from hanging
> up
> on something, like a winch, pulling the boat into a broach?
>
> As for motoring into the wind, yes I do use use the main sail to stabilize
> the boat.
>
> We should meet up on the lake sometime.
>
> Rick
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:03 PM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Very good point,Rick. I do have a small lake mindset,but I have been
>> out
>> on Lake Erie when a storm blew up,and if your more than a mile from
>> protection,you better have a good storm plan ready.I think I would still
>> leave the anchor,and rode on the cockpit floor,secure the tiller,grab
>> the
>> bitter end of the rode and the last 20 feet thread it outside the
>> shrouds
>> on the port side and in threw the bow pulpit and the fair lead and cleat
>> it.Once back in the cockpit,Idle the motor and put in nutrual,when the
>> waves start pushing the boat backwards,heave the anchor as hard as I can
>> to port and forward. Then I would feed out the rest of the rode, tossing
>> the last 20 feet or so still in a coil to port and pray for a good hook.
>>
>> When motoring into a storm,do you put a little sail out to ease the
>> motion
>> of the waves? Which,both or neither?
>>
>> Thanks for giving me something I can use later
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry,
>> >
>> > That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when
>> the
>> > motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
>> > along
>> > with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and
>> any
>> > crew
>> > have turned green?
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
>> >> rubbermaid
>> >> container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20
>> feet
>> >> of
>> >> the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let
>> off,and
>> >> then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside
>> of
>> >> the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
>> >>
>> >> Jerry Lowe
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
>> >> > anchor
>> >> > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
>> >> looking.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rummy
>> >> >
>> >> > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >> > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> >> >
>> >> > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from the
>> >> > cockpit
>> >> > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
>> >> > swishing
>> >> > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from
>> the
>> >> > anchor
>> >> > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's not
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> > admiral, but in the locker.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the
>> >> anchor.
>> >> > It
>> >> > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I
>> wish
>> >> to
>> >> > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from
>> the
>> >> > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain
>> in
>> >> and
>> >> > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when
>> handling
>> >> > anchor
>> >> > tackle.)
>> >> >
>> >> > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more
>> >> effective.
>> >> > But
>> >> > whatever works best for you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rick
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Gentleman,
>> >> >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary
>> and
>> >> >> creates
>> >> >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint,
>> the
>> >> >> cowl
>> >> > is
>> >> >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind
>> direction.
>> >> This
>> >> >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more ventilation.
>> >> It's
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> based
>> >> >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the
>> cockpit
>> >> to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work
>> than
>> >> > trying
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and
>> mess
>> >> from
>> >> > the
>> >> >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many
>> areas
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell
>> just
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp
>> muddy
>> >> > flats
>> >> >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rummy
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lee,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through the
>> >> hole.
>> >> > I
>> >> >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than
>> retrieving
>> >> >> tackle
>> >> >> from the cockpit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits
>> >> through
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n roll,
>> I
>> >> use
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out. I'm
>> >> > re-posting
>> >> >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't see
>> >> the
>> >> >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the
>> big
>> >> loop
>> >> > in
>> >> >> the rode.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there
>> is
>> >> no
>> >> >> water
>> >> >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to
>> >> ventilate
>> >> > the
>> >> >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth
>> when
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> wind
>> >> >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the
>> >> locker
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> dry
>> >> >> out later.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rick
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Rick,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do
>> you
>> >> use
>> >> > to
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
>> >> >> designed
>> >> > if
>> >> >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking
>> the
>> >> > locker
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the
>> anchor
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > rode.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is
>> designed
>> >> to
>> >> >> face
>> >> >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward.
>> Should
>> >> I
>> >> > turn
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > around?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Lee
>> >> >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>> >> >> > Kent Island, MD
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Rick-139 wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Cowie,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the
>> wind.
>> >> Do
>> >> > you
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > > a
>> >> >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to fit
>> >> will
>> >> >> tighten
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker
>> under
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> deck.
>> >> >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you
>> from
>> >> > using
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who
>> prefer
>> >> to
>> >> > lug
>> >> >> > > their
>> >> >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them,
>> the
>> >> fan
>> >> >> vent
>> >> >> > > will
>> >> >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Rick
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
>> >> >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional
>> >> quality
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> > >> have a couple of questions.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a
>> deck
>> >> >> fitting.
>> >> >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and
>> >> can
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> > >> replaced
>> >> >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while the
>> >> deck
>> >> >> fitting
>> >> >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose
>> from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > plastic
>> >> >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around
>> the
>> >> > plastic
>> >> >> > >> ring
>> >> >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent
>> >> supposed
>> >> > to
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> >> deck
>> >> >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it
>> might
>> >> go
>> >> >> > >> overboard.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
>> >> >> installed
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> > >> and
>> >> >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the
>> idea
>> >> of
>> >> >> being
>> >> >> > >> able
>> >> >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
>> >> > interchangable.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can this
>> be
>> >> >> insterted
>> >> >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Thanks
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
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