[Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing

Sun Mar 1 21:25:53 EST 2009

Thanks guys,

Last Summer was my first sailing season, having  acquired the boat in early May.  I sail on a lake and to date more often than not i have experienced light winds, winds in which my 175 collapses even when reefed somewhat.  As you may have experienced, it not fun being dead in open water, with no motion and no shelter.  To might delight, my wife insisted that I get bimini.  

Next Problem:  I am looking for a way to sail on most points of sail, if not all points of sail in very light air.  I have found that poling out the 175 helps a lot on reach to run legs with light winds.  Without the pole the 175 collapses on itself.

I have heard from this list that UPS allows you to sail on most points of sail in very light air, say from 2-3 mph, and not just on a run.  It will fill out,and not collapse even in a chop, and allow you sail slowly on any point of sail, even when others are dead in the water.

Is there any lake sailor, or sailor in frequent fickle winds, who can help me/us get a fair sense of the performance of the UPS on the various points of sail, and not just on a run in very light air?

Sailing down wind in light air, wing on wing, with the genny poled out is a lot of fun.  Is it Rummy who reminded us that doing the same in a good wind is close to extreme sailing.

The question again is: will a UPS allow a Rhodes 22 sailor to sail on all, or most points of sail in winds from, say 2 mph?  I am looking for a way to beat the "dead in the water blues."

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 3:42 PM

Caesar,

ROI = Return On Investment.  I haven't found the UPS any better than the
175
genny on any tack other than a run.  In fact, the weight of the genny lets
it keep its shape much better than the UPS when you heel away from an almost
dead wind.

Albeit, the UPS is effective and fun on a run in light air.  I was once
first over the finish line by using my UPS.  The people on shore said my
boat looked like a frigate plowing through the fleet.  Trouble was, it was a
JAM race and the committee decided against me on a protest, classifying the
UPS as a spinaker rather than a jib and only one jib allowed anywey.

If you do a lot of downwind sailing in light air, consider getting a UPS.  I
just haven't encountered those conditions frequent enough since I got mine.
Plus, I hate being DNQ.

Rick

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Was does ROI mean?
>
> Have you been ever out sailing and there was not enough wind to fill out
> the genny, and being dead in the water, the UPS got you moving again?
>
> Thanks,
> Caesar
>
> --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 11:13 AM
>
>  Since the UPS is mounted inside the fore stay, you need to drop it to
> effectively use the genny.  The exception to effectively using the genny
is
> when you wing-on-wing it with the genny.
>
> It doesn't make much sense to use the UPS partially furled, so the
furler
> is
> mainly a convenience to deploying and stiking the sail.  I'm averse to
> going
> out on the bow deck these days and the furler makes it completely possible
> to manage the sail fully from within the cabin with the pop top up .  (You
> wouldn't want to deploy the UPS anyway when conditions are not
conducive to
> sailing with the pop top up.)
>
> I've found I can pretty much get to wind speed on a run using the UPS
> wing-on-wing with the genny that is is poled out.  However, I don't
> think the UPS pulls any better than the 175 genny on a reach in light air.
>
> Since I do mainly coastal day sailing, which means my light air sailing
> is mainly on a reach to sea breezes or coast influenced prevailing winds,
> there's only a few days each season I get an opportunity to run in
> light air.  All-in-all, I've found the UPS has the lowest ROI of any
> thousand bucks I've spent on my boat.
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > How do most people like to use the ups, always installed with furling
> > mechanism or manual only when needed?
> >
> >
> > R Orkin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://www.nabble.com/file/p22235080/Doyle%2BSails%2B2009%2BRhodes%2B22%2BUPS%2BOffer%2B%25281%2529.pdf
> > > Doyle+Sails+2009+Rhodes+22+UPS+Offer+%281%29.pdf
> > >
> > > If the PDF file is not readable..
> > > $644 for the Sail + 30 shipping
> > > Add a Furling Kit
> > > RWO Continuous line furler
> > > with control line loop
> > > and sheets $225
> > >  Contact: Paul Beaudin
> > > Doyle Sailmakers 225 Fordham Street City Island, NY 10464
> > > 800-237-4453 Email doylesails at verizon.net
> > >
> >
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