[Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing

[Mary Lou Troy]

Rick,
Very interesting. Your experience is directly opposite ours. Maybe 
the difference is the steadiness of the breeze? We find that under 4 
or 5 knots the genoa collapses on itself more so if the breeze is 
fitful or if there are wakes and powerboat chop. We almost always 
have powerboat chop. We find that the UPS is better at staying full 
under those conditions upwind or downwind and that it refills more 
easily once it has spilled its air.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 06:42 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote:
>Caesar,
>
>ROI = Return On Investment.  I haven't found the UPS any better than the 175
>genny on any tack other than a run.  In fact, the weight of the genny lets
>it keep its shape much better than the UPS when you heel away from an almost
>dead wind.
>
>Albeit, the UPS is effective and fun on a run in light air.  I was once
>first over the finish line by using my UPS.  The people on shore said my
>boat looked like a frigate plowing through the fleet.  Trouble was, it was a
>JAM race and the committee decided against me on a protest, classifying the
>UPS as a spinaker rather than a jib and only one jib allowed anywey.
>
>If you do a lot of downwind sailing in light air, consider getting a UPS.  I
>just haven't encountered those conditions frequent enough since I got mine.
>Plus, I hate being DNQ.
>
>Rick
>
>On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > Was does ROI mean?
> >
> > Have you been ever out sailing and there was not enough wind to fill out
> > the genny, and being dead in the water, the UPS got you moving again?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 11:13 AM
> >
> >  Since the UPS is mounted inside the fore stay, you need to drop it to
> > effectively use the genny.  The exception to effectively using the genny is
> > when you wing-on-wing it with the genny.
> >
> > It doesn't make much sense to use the UPS partially furled, so the furler
> > is
> > mainly a convenience to deploying and stiking the sail.  I'm averse to
> > going
> > out on the bow deck these days and the furler makes it completely possible
> > to manage the sail fully from within the cabin with the pop top up .  (You
> > wouldn't want to deploy the UPS anyway when conditions are not conducive to
> > sailing with the pop top up.)
> >
> > I've found I can pretty much get to wind speed on a run using the UPS
> > wing-on-wing with the genny that is is poled out.  However, I don't
> > think the UPS pulls any better than the 175 genny on a reach in light air.
> >
> > Since I do mainly coastal day sailing, which means my light air sailing
> > is mainly on a reach to sea breezes or coast influenced prevailing winds,
> > there's only a few days each season I get an opportunity to run in
> > light air.  All-in-all, I've found the UPS has the lowest ROI of any
> > thousand bucks I've spent on my boat.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > How do most people like to use the ups, always installed with furling
> > > mechanism or manual only when needed?
> > >
> > >
> > > R Orkin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p22235080/Doyle%2BSails%2B2009%2BRhodes%2B22%2BUPS%2BOffer%2B%25281%2529.pdf
> > > > Doyle+Sails+2009+Rhodes+22+UPS+Offer+%281%29.pdf
> > > >
> > > > If the PDF file is not readable..
> > > > $644 for the Sail + 30 shipping
> > > > Add a Furling Kit
> > > > RWO Continuous line furler
> > > > with control line loop
> > > > and sheets $225
> > > >  Contact: Paul Beaudin
> > > > Doyle Sailmakers 225 Fordham Street City Island, NY 10464
> > > > 800-237-4453 Email doylesails at verizon.net
> > > >
> > >
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