[Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip

Tue May 12 11:31:44 EDT 2009

Dave,

That is an urban legend running around and is unfounded.

Hank

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have read that freezing water in plastic bottles can release some of
> the compounds in the plastic and introduce carcinogens into the water.
>  Not sure I would make a steady diet of the meltwater.  Same goes for
> letting the water in plastic bottles get heated, as in sitting in a
> hot car or cabin.
>
> I'm not usually too worried about this stuff but this one got my attention.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Bob Keller
> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > As Art described, he did provide us with a remote controlled light that
> attached by magnet to the boom room cover.  This was plenty of light to use
> for reading on the trip, but we used to use a battery powered
> lantern/spotlight.
> >
> >
> >
> > On the fridge, I was hoping to freeze the ice box and then drink the
> water as it melts, but I guess I shouold use milk jugs as you suggest.
> >
> > Bob K
> >
> >> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:33 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> Looks like a real nice trip. Western FL in May is usually great weather.
> >> Glad that you
> >> lucked out.
> >>
> >> I agree, the BR is a great addition. I am budgeting for one. Is there a
> >> way to deploy the canopy so that it serves the place of a bimini (under
> the
> >> boom)? I would love to get rid of the bimini but I roast in the sun.
> >>
> >> I have been wondering what kind of lighting you have in the BR. We use a
> >> battery powered lantern which is nice, but not really bright enough. I
> >> would like to use LED rope lights along the BR frame. Has anyone found a
> >> good source of rope lights that will run off 12V (rather than use the
> >> inefficient AC inverter power?) Art, have you made a BR with an integral
> >> lighting system?
> >>
> >> As far as the ice goes, I freeze water in half-gallon milk containers
> and
> >> they last for days, probably due to less surface area than ice cubes. If
> >> the container fails, I just toss it in a recycling bin. I try to find
> the
> >> ones with screw on caps so that they do not leak into the fridge box
> since
> >> mine is also cracked. I doubt that it can be repaired, although you may
> be
> >> able to place a membrane inside to stop the leaks from condensate. We
> also
> >> freeze Poland Spring half-liter bottles right out of the Costco packing.
> >> They also last a pretty long time. For box lunches, we just pack a
> frozen
> >> bottle with the lunch to keep it cold and for drinking water at lunch
> (if it
> >> is liquid.)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >> From: "Bob Keller" Monday, May 11, 2009 1:55 PM
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> My wife and I just returned from a trailersailing trip to southwest
> Florida
> >> last week and I wanted to share some findings and pictures with the
> group.
> >> We drove from Richmond Hill, GA (near Savannah) to Punta Gorda, FL (100
> >> miles south of Tampa) on Saturday and it took us 7.5 hours (420 miles).
> Art
> >> Czerwonky and Tom Simpson drove down to meet us at the municiple marina
> and
> >> boat ramp called Laishley Park. It is a great facility and the day we
> got
> >> there they were having a redfish tournament with professionals and ESPN
> >> coverage. Other than tight parking, it did not impact us at all. This
> was
> >> our 6th trip there in the last 7 years, but the first time we went as
> late
> >> as May and we were rewarded with perfect weather - highs in the mid 80's
> and
> >> winds were 10-15 knots, mostly out of the south (compared with the
> typical
> >> 15-25 knots we usually get in April). We spent 5 nights on the boat,
> which
> >> we both agree is our limit. Went to Tween Waters on Captiva, Cabbage Key
> >> and Boca Grande which has an outstanding new (since the hurricane of
> '04)
> >> marina that is first rate. All the facilities we visited were rebuilt in
> >> the past 5 years and were all in great condition. The sailing was really
> >> great on this trip because we were able to sail with the poptop up and
> the
> >> sails all unfurled which is the first time we have ever been able to do
> that
> >> in FL. That said, let's get to our findings:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This was the first trip we made with the Boom Room and it was the
> biggest
> >> upgrade we have made to the trip. It makes overnighting on the boat much
> >> nicer for a number of reasons. First is that it is modular in that you
> can
> >> put up as much as you need and a little at a time. This makes assembly
> >> easier because you can do it gradually. Very easy to take down and put
> up -
> >> after my second time I was putting it up in 10-15 minutes - the top
> first
> >> which is a great sunshade for the cockpit. Then I would put up the bow
> >> screens and add the other panels as the sun moved to keep the cockpit
> >> comfortable. The side panels are lightweight materials and are very easy
> to
> >> work with, ie: you do not break a sweat putting this up. The other nice
> >> aspect is that when you wake up in the morning, the cockpit is not
> covered
> >> with dew as it used to be. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but a dry
> cockpit
> >> also stays cleaner - after a week the boat was just as clean as when we
> >> started. Last but not least, the Boom Room is very easy to stow and
> store
> >> and does not take up a lot of space. The BR is a very nice addition and
> I
> >> recommend it if anyone is going to be sleeping aboard for any amount of
> >> time.
> >> Due to the above, I will be selling my Pop-Top enclosure if anyone is
> >> interested. Very good condition - all snaps & screens intact.
> >> I think I got the idea on this list to actually fill up the icebox
> >> (ice-holder) for the fridge with water and freeze it before going on
> such a
> >> trip. I tried this and actually froze it for a week before the trip and
> it
> >> works amazingly well. The ice lasted for four days compared with 1 day
> for
> >> ice cubes! Amazing in that this would last almost the whole trip. The
> only
> >> problem was that my box cracked on the bottom, maybe due to it being
> frozen
> >> or being old, so as the ice melted it got the carpet in the boat wet and
> >> kept it that way. Anyone else ever have that happen? I am going to try
> and
> >> fix it with silicone or maybe get a new one from Stan. I just hope the
> new
> >> one won't crack from freezing also...
> >> This was the first time I tried out my new 150 genoa (vs. the old 175)
> and
> >> it was a huge improvement. The boat pointed a lot better into the wind,
> >> even when furled. The new sail does not slip over the furling tube like
> the
> >> old ones did and I think the new design is much better. Just having a
> new
> >> sail probably accounted for most of the improvement. Time will tell but
> I
> >> expect this new sail will be much better on the coast where I sail since
> I
> >> almost always had to furl the 175.
> >> I have given up on a dinghy for the R22. I had a Sea Eagle (6H)
> inflatable
> >> and it was a PITA to carry (bulky) and then inflate once the anchor is
> down.
> >> So I tried to tie it off to the stern rail and drag it behind me but it
> >> really was a lot of drag and it slowed us down quite a lot (I would say
> by 1
> >> knot). Then I had patched a leak (on the seam of course) several years
> ago
> >> and tested it out before we left and it was fine. Naturally when I
> inflated
> >> it on day 1 the patch was leaking. Because of that I could not row it
> very
> >> well against the wind at the anchorage. Finally when we got to the
> marina I
> >> gave it away to some unlucky person. Glad to get that POS off the boat.
> >> Not sure if anyone has the perfect inflatable for the R-22, but maybe a
> >> two-person inflatable kayak? It would have to be light, compact, easy to
> >> inflate/deflate, durable and of course easy to row.
> >>
> >>
> >> That is pretty much it for this trip and these findings except that my
> wife
> >> and I are realizing that one of the keys is to simplify and take less
> with
> >> us rather than more. We've been taking too much of everything: clothes,
> >> food and other stuff that are not needed. The simpler the better. I now
> >> have her convinced to keep doing this twice a year, so October is the
> next
> >> one.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If I come up with any more "findings" I will post them.
> >>
> >> Bob K
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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