[Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip
John Lock
jlock at relevantarts.com
Tue May 12 11:45:39 EDT 2009
On May 12, 2009, at 11:31, Hank wrote:
> Dave,
>
> That is an urban legend running around and is unfounded.
Yup, mostly false information. See - http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/plasticbottles.asp
Cheers!
John
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I have read that freezing water in plastic bottles can release some
>> of
>> the compounds in the plastic and introduce carcinogens into the
>> water.
>> Not sure I would make a steady diet of the meltwater. Same goes for
>> letting the water in plastic bottles get heated, as in sitting in a
>> hot car or cabin.
>>
>> I'm not usually too worried about this stuff but this one got my
>> attention.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Bob Keller
>> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> As Art described, he did provide us with a remote controlled light
>>> that
>> attached by magnet to the boom room cover. This was plenty of
>> light to use
>> for reading on the trip, but we used to use a battery powered
>> lantern/spotlight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On the fridge, I was hoping to freeze the ice box and then drink the
>> water as it melts, but I guess I shouold use milk jugs as you
>> suggest.
>>>
>>> Bob K
>>>
>>>> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:33 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like a real nice trip. Western FL in May is usually great
>>>> weather.
>>>> Glad that you
>>>> lucked out.
>>>>
>>>> I agree, the BR is a great addition. I am budgeting for one. Is
>>>> there a
>>>> way to deploy the canopy so that it serves the place of a bimini
>>>> (under
>> the
>>>> boom)? I would love to get rid of the bimini but I roast in the
>>>> sun.
>>>>
>>>> I have been wondering what kind of lighting you have in the BR.
>>>> We use a
>>>> battery powered lantern which is nice, but not really bright
>>>> enough. I
>>>> would like to use LED rope lights along the BR frame. Has anyone
>>>> found a
>>>> good source of rope lights that will run off 12V (rather than use
>>>> the
>>>> inefficient AC inverter power?) Art, have you made a BR with an
>>>> integral
>>>> lighting system?
>>>>
>>>> As far as the ice goes, I freeze water in half-gallon milk
>>>> containers
>> and
>>>> they last for days, probably due to less surface area than ice
>>>> cubes. If
>>>> the container fails, I just toss it in a recycling bin. I try to
>>>> find
>> the
>>>> ones with screw on caps so that they do not leak into the fridge
>>>> box
>> since
>>>> mine is also cracked. I doubt that it can be repaired, although
>>>> you may
>> be
>>>> able to place a membrane inside to stop the leaks from
>>>> condensate. We
>> also
>>>> freeze Poland Spring half-liter bottles right out of the Costco
>>>> packing.
>>>> They also last a pretty long time. For box lunches, we just pack a
>> frozen
>>>> bottle with the lunch to keep it cold and for drinking water at
>>>> lunch
>> (if it
>>>> is liquid.)
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bob Keller" Monday, May 11, 2009 1:55 PM
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> My wife and I just returned from a trailersailing trip to southwest
>> Florida
>>>> last week and I wanted to share some findings and pictures with the
>> group.
>>>> We drove from Richmond Hill, GA (near Savannah) to Punta Gorda,
>>>> FL (100
>>>> miles south of Tampa) on Saturday and it took us 7.5 hours (420
>>>> miles).
>> Art
>>>> Czerwonky and Tom Simpson drove down to meet us at the municiple
>>>> marina
>> and
>>>> boat ramp called Laishley Park. It is a great facility and the
>>>> day we
>> got
>>>> there they were having a redfish tournament with professionals
>>>> and ESPN
>>>> coverage. Other than tight parking, it did not impact us at all.
>>>> This
>> was
>>>> our 6th trip there in the last 7 years, but the first time we
>>>> went as
>> late
>>>> as May and we were rewarded with perfect weather - highs in the
>>>> mid 80's
>> and
>>>> winds were 10-15 knots, mostly out of the south (compared with the
>> typical
>>>> 15-25 knots we usually get in April). We spent 5 nights on the
>>>> boat,
>> which
>>>> we both agree is our limit. Went to Tween Waters on Captiva,
>>>> Cabbage Key
>>>> and Boca Grande which has an outstanding new (since the hurricane
>>>> of
>> '04)
>>>> marina that is first rate. All the facilities we visited were
>>>> rebuilt in
>>>> the past 5 years and were all in great condition. The sailing was
>>>> really
>>>> great on this trip because we were able to sail with the poptop
>>>> up and
>> the
>>>> sails all unfurled which is the first time we have ever been able
>>>> to do
>> that
>>>> in FL. That said, let's get to our findings:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This was the first trip we made with the Boom Room and it was the
>> biggest
>>>> upgrade we have made to the trip. It makes overnighting on the
>>>> boat much
>>>> nicer for a number of reasons. First is that it is modular in
>>>> that you
>> can
>>>> put up as much as you need and a little at a time. This makes
>>>> assembly
>>>> easier because you can do it gradually. Very easy to take down
>>>> and put
>> up -
>>>> after my second time I was putting it up in 10-15 minutes - the top
>> first
>>>> which is a great sunshade for the cockpit. Then I would put up
>>>> the bow
>>>> screens and add the other panels as the sun moved to keep the
>>>> cockpit
>>>> comfortable. The side panels are lightweight materials and are
>>>> very easy
>> to
>>>> work with, ie: you do not break a sweat putting this up. The
>>>> other nice
>>>> aspect is that when you wake up in the morning, the cockpit is not
>> covered
>>>> with dew as it used to be. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but a dry
>> cockpit
>>>> also stays cleaner - after a week the boat was just as clean as
>>>> when we
>>>> started. Last but not least, the Boom Room is very easy to stow and
>> store
>>>> and does not take up a lot of space. The BR is a very nice
>>>> addition and
>> I
>>>> recommend it if anyone is going to be sleeping aboard for any
>>>> amount of
>>>> time.
>>>> Due to the above, I will be selling my Pop-Top enclosure if
>>>> anyone is
>>>> interested. Very good condition - all snaps & screens intact.
>>>> I think I got the idea on this list to actually fill up the icebox
>>>> (ice-holder) for the fridge with water and freeze it before going
>>>> on
>> such a
>>>> trip. I tried this and actually froze it for a week before the
>>>> trip and
>> it
>>>> works amazingly well. The ice lasted for four days compared with
>>>> 1 day
>> for
>>>> ice cubes! Amazing in that this would last almost the whole trip.
>>>> The
>> only
>>>> problem was that my box cracked on the bottom, maybe due to it
>>>> being
>> frozen
>>>> or being old, so as the ice melted it got the carpet in the boat
>>>> wet and
>>>> kept it that way. Anyone else ever have that happen? I am going
>>>> to try
>> and
>>>> fix it with silicone or maybe get a new one from Stan. I just
>>>> hope the
>> new
>>>> one won't crack from freezing also...
>>>> This was the first time I tried out my new 150 genoa (vs. the old
>>>> 175)
>> and
>>>> it was a huge improvement. The boat pointed a lot better into the
>>>> wind,
>>>> even when furled. The new sail does not slip over the furling
>>>> tube like
>> the
>>>> old ones did and I think the new design is much better. Just
>>>> having a
>> new
>>>> sail probably accounted for most of the improvement. Time will
>>>> tell but
>> I
>>>> expect this new sail will be much better on the coast where I
>>>> sail since
>> I
>>>> almost always had to furl the 175.
>>>> I have given up on a dinghy for the R22. I had a Sea Eagle (6H)
>> inflatable
>>>> and it was a PITA to carry (bulky) and then inflate once the
>>>> anchor is
>> down.
>>>> So I tried to tie it off to the stern rail and drag it behind me
>>>> but it
>>>> really was a lot of drag and it slowed us down quite a lot (I
>>>> would say
>> by 1
>>>> knot). Then I had patched a leak (on the seam of course) several
>>>> years
>> ago
>>>> and tested it out before we left and it was fine. Naturally when I
>> inflated
>>>> it on day 1 the patch was leaking. Because of that I could not
>>>> row it
>> very
>>>> well against the wind at the anchorage. Finally when we got to the
>> marina I
>>>> gave it away to some unlucky person. Glad to get that POS off the
>>>> boat.
>>>> Not sure if anyone has the perfect inflatable for the R-22, but
>>>> maybe a
>>>> two-person inflatable kayak? It would have to be light, compact,
>>>> easy to
>>>> inflate/deflate, durable and of course easy to row.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is pretty much it for this trip and these findings except
>>>> that my
>> wife
>>>> and I are realizing that one of the keys is to simplify and take
>>>> less
>> with
>>>> us rather than more. We've been taking too much of everything:
>>>> clothes,
>>>> food and other stuff that are not needed. The simpler the better.
>>>> I now
>>>> have her convinced to keep doing this twice a year, so October is
>>>> the
>> next
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I come up with any more "findings" I will post them.
>>>>
>>>> Bob K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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