[Rhodes22-list] traveler bar length?

[John Lock]

FYI, the stays in that picture are not against a sharp edge.  In fact,  
that traveler rebuild project replaced the sharp edges on the old one,  
which were a definite hazard.  Those stanchion eyes on the end of the  
traveler have a very smooth rounded contour on the load-bearing  
surface.  Indeed, it would be easier on the stay if it was spread over  
more surface area, but given that I have a split backstay (rather than  
a twin backstay) my options were more limited.  With the twin  
backstays the angle of the stay passing thru the eye would not be  
nearly as acute and, in fact, they might pass straight through.

Cheers!
John Lock
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s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
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On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:40, John Shulick wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Look carefully at how the blocks are attached to the backstays. Stan  
> used a
> small piece of wire crimped/swaged in place. That spreads the loads  
> carried
> by the traveller bar (or rope) over a greater area. The bar in the  
> picture
> bends the wire over a sharp unyielding edge. Rounding all corners  
> would
> help. I know my repair on the one stay in my picture violates my own  
> rules
> to some extent but it is temporary as I plan to replace the  
> backstays over
> the winter solving the problem. Questioning ideas is welcome as it  
> can lead
> to better understanding of how something works.
>
> Hope you're sailing soon
> John S
>
>
> cgstetson wrote:
>>
>> just wondering.....doesn't the rope traveler put the same amount of  
>> force
>> on the stay since it pulls the stay in instead of pushing them  
>> out...not
>> questioning you, was just wondering. i will definitely put all the  
>> stays
>> up and have them to sailing tension before cutting a piece of 1"  
>> fit to
>> size..that sounds the best as of right now.
>>
>> thanks for everything,
>> chris
>> rhode trip "in progress"
>>
>>
>> John Shulick wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I would make the length of the bar the same as the distance  
>>> between the
>>> stays with the stays tension set as if you were sailing. I would  
>>> avoid
>>> putting a bend or kink in the wire as you see in your photo where  
>>> the
>>> wire is bent as it leaves the bar and continues up to the masthead.
>>> Bending a wire like that can lead to failure over time and or  
>>> extreme
>>> sailing. If you're interested here is a pict of the rope back stay
>>> adjuster and the rope traveller.
>>>
>>> John S
>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p29356486/DSCF0300.jpg
>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p29356486/DSCF0299.jpg
>>>
>>> cgstetson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> could someone send me the length of the traveler bar..i am in the
>>>> process on rerigging my rhodes and until now i assume the boat  
>>>> had a
>>>> traveler "line" or rope . since it has many broken stays i do not  
>>>> know
>>>> the size of the traveler..i would like to make it a traveler bar  
>>>> and do
>>>> what this person did by shortening it slightly to allow for more  
>>>> sit
>>>> room and head room..
>>>>
>>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p29356399/trav_new.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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