[Rhodes22-list] Advice on re-routing genoa sheets ??
Rick
sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Tue Aug 10 20:53:13 EDT 2010
Rummy,
I have never gotten my boat to point higher than 45 deg. by keeping the crew
forward and a good heel.
That's not always bad. Last Saturday my club had a reverse sail race as a
regatta event. A reverse sail is a way to handicap by starting all boats at
the same time, then at a designated time all boats reverse and sail the
course back to the start-finish line. That way, the slowest boat up the
course is the first boat down course when the fleet reverses.
This year, it was a light air beat from the start line. So I was nearly
last when we reversed. A dead downwind run with my 175 genny meant I won!
Rick
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> Chris,
> I have never found the Rhodes to be lacking in pointing ability compared to
> other hulls both larger and smaller. What I have found is un tuned
> rigging, blown out sails and a host of other problems that have prevented
> them
> from pointing well. It really all boiled down to operator error and a lack
> of
> sailing knowledge. I have corrected many a Rhodes owners problems, but you
> have to see the boat in person and sail it before deciding what to fix,
> including the owners.
> As usual my fee for this service is to cover all travel expenses and all
> the rum I can drink. :) The fees automatically are reduced by the number of
> galley wenches provided.
>
>
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/10/2010 2:32:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com writes:
>
> Lee/Jack:
>
> I typically keep my jib sheets outside the shrouds for maximum sail size
> however I do move the sheets to the other two positions in an effort to
> point higher. Anything other than the outer position looses a couple of
> knots
> of speed. I find the easiest way to change the sheet position is to furl
> the jib in all the way, then reach over or thru the pop top and move the
> sheet, then unfurl the jib. I seem to get about 60 degrees off the wind
> with
> a full head sail, 120 total. I can cheat a bit if its blowing hard and
> let
> the head sail luff, this also lessens the heal angle. The best I have
> managed in the alternate sheet positions, at lower speed, is 45 degrees
> off
> the wind, total 90 degrees.
>
> I came upon a Catalina 22, sailing the same direction sailing upwind
> toward Herrington Harbor South, as I came out of Herrington Harbor North
> this
> past Sunday afternoon. I quickly got the outboard stowed and let out full
> sail. Wind was a steady 9kts with gusts to 11kts. While the Catalina
> could
> point about 10 degrees higher than me I outsailed her on several tacks as
> we made our way to the marker at the end of Long Bar, about a mile and a
> half up wind. It must have taken the Catalina another fifteen minutes to
> reach the same mark. While I am frustrated with the Rhodes pointing
> ability I
> am delighted at how she can get up and go in light and moderate wind.
>
> Christopher P. Cowie
>
>
> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> Suite 300
> Washington, DC 20007
> 202.342.2711
> 202.342.2691 fax
> 202.270.1470 mobile
>
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> cowieassociates.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Leland
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:28 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advice on re-routing genoa sheets ??
>
>
> Jack,
>
> Glad you asked.
>
> "Is it worth it?" Absolutely. It's more important than lowering your
> centerboard, which is also pretty important. 120 degree tacks with your
> sheets run outside of the shrouds is pretty good so your sails and skills
> must not be too baggy.
>
> "Is there a quick and easy method?" I'm lazy and I rerun my sheets just
> about every time I go out. Even if I don't need to run the sheets between
> the shrouds for windward performance I'll often get better sail shape if I
> do. Here's my technique and I hope others chime in with their methods:
>
> If you're singlehandling you'll need to lock the tiller so you can leave
> the
> helm.
>
> Untie the stopper knot at the end of your windward sheet (you can rerun
> the
> leeward sheet but it's not as easy) and pull the sheet loose from the
> winch
> and Genoa track block (pulley).
>
> >From the cabin grab the sheet forward of the outside shroud. I'm six
> foot
> tall and can reach it without leaving the cabin or using a boat hook.
>
> Coil up the sheet and drop it on the sidedeck just forward of the Genoa
> sheet eye attached to the side of the cabin (on my boat).
>
> Run the bitter end of the sheet through the eye and with your aft hand
> pull
> the sheet into the cockpit. I run the sheet through my forward hand
> forward
> of the eye to prevent the coil from getting tangled at the eye.
>
> >From the cockpit run the bitter end back through block. If you run it
> directly to the winch the angle of the sheet may be too high and cause the
> sheet to get stuck around the winch during use. If you have a bimini make
> sure you run the sheets to avoid touching the bimini supports.
>
> Retie your stopper knot but instead of using a figure-eight knot use a
> simple over-hand knot. I've read several articles lately that claim it
> will
> hold better with the soft Genoa sheets.
>
> Come about so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor.
>
> Running the sheets between the mast and the inner shrouds is the same
> except
> you use the eye on top of the cabin and use the cam cleat instead of the
> block and winch. It makes for a pretty small Genoa and I usually only use
> it if I'm beating it in higher winds.
>
> As a daysailor I frequently like to start out upwind and stay there to
> prevent the need to motor upwind to get back to my marina. The heavier
> the
> wind the more I try to stay upwind which can make for a fun run back home.
> In light wind I use whatever point-of-sail keeps me moving and use the
> motor
> to return if necessary.
>
> I've measured 45 degrees into the wind several times and suspect that our
> boats would do close to 40 degrees with the right skipper and conditions.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> Come-here Jack wrote:
> >
> > Murphy's law--in full effect here on Mobjack Bay--dictates that I spend
> > more time than I'd like sailing to windward. My less-than-stellar
> sailing
> > skills + some pretty old & baggy sails make it unusual to point any
> higher
> > than 60 degrees off the wind (120 degree tacks). I suspect the R-22
> will
> > point higher than this, and I'd like to hear some opinions on moving the
> > genny sheets inside the shrouds. Is it worth the effort? Is there a
> > 'quick & easy' method? Should I just learn to treat my sailing more
> like
> > sled riding (downhill only) ?
> >
> >
> > Jack Chirch
> > s/v Pax - Gloucester, VA
> >
>
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