[Rhodes22-list] Genoa size - 130 or 150

[Rick]

Lee,

I think the Sail magazine article on losing head sail effectiveness above
150% was referring to fractional rigs.  The current issue has an article on
sail aspect ratio that sheds some light on this.  I also feel a flat furler
foil helps with pointing.

Rick

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

>
> Rob,
>
> Here's a West Marine article that supports a smaller furling headsail:
>
> "One area of caution: we think you can effectively reduce your headsail
> area
> by about 30%–from a 130% to a 100%–but not much further. We've all seen ads
> in sailing magazines which imply that your 150% genoa can be rolled into a
> storm jib, but that is nonsense. If you sail in an area where the
> prevailing
> winds are light in one season and heavy in another, you'll probably want
> two
> furling headsails: a 135% and a 110%, for example."
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/WestAdvisorView?langId=-1&storeId=11151&catalogId=10001&page=Roller-Furling-Reefing-Systems
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/WestAdvisorView?langId=-1&storeId=11151&catalogId=10001&page=Roller-Furling-Reefing-Systems
>
> SAIL magazine recently had an article on headsail size and stated that
> headsails lose their effectiveness beyond 150% for most boats.  I assume
> they were talking about close reaches and I'm not convinced that a 175% on
> a
> Rhodes22 will move you faster than a smaller Genoa on a close reach in the
> same conditions.  However, you aren't always racing another boat on a close
> reach and that big sail will definitely give you a lot of power on a beam
> reach or off the wind.
>
> I still think bigger is better when it comes to head
> sails.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> Pat &amp; Mary Ann wrote:
> >
> > Robert,
> > I have a 110% foresail and really enjoy it.  I started with a 150 and
> > found
> > I had it furled half the time when I was soloing. I have an inmast
> furling
> > main that is ok.  The leech has a tentency to flutter a little, but can
> be
> > controlled with the leech cords.
> > Pat Devig
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Baldi" <rob.o.baldi at gmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Cc: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf1 at verizon.net>; <stan at rhodes22.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:03 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa size - 130 or 150
> >
> >
> > Hello
> > My name is Robert Baldi - I have owned my Rhodes for more than 10 years.
> > Jay
> > Friedland and I sail off of Long Beach Island N.J. We each have our own
> > boats. I used to be on the list using my email address name of Moses2u,
> > and
> > I know some of you from my days when I was regularly on the list - years
> > ago.
> >
> > Here is my question: I plan to buy a new set of sails. I currently have
> > what
> > I think is a 150 genoa. I am not a timid sailor, but I am looking for
> > performance and therefore I am considering buying a smaller Genoa. I do
> > a great deal of solo sailing. Most often the wind is more than10-12 knots
> > and frequently 14+. I  regularly reef my genoa to some extent- probably
> > more
> > than half the time I go out solo.
> >
> > My first premise ( I am looking for guidance on this) is that a sail is
> at
> > maximum performance full out and not reefed. Therefore I will obtain
> > maximum
> > performance most of the time with a smaller Genoa.
> >
> > I will miss the larger Genoa some of the time, --- but will the better
> > performance for most of the time (more than 50%) compensate my feeling of
> > disappointment on those days when I could have used a larger sail -  On
> > those days (wind from 7 to 10 knots) when I would have sailed the 150 at
> > 100%.
> >
> > My furling system is the old General Boats basic design where the sail is
> > screwed to the tube. I do not intend to buy a new system and two sets of
> > sails - but if there are people who regularly change their sail -I will
> > listen to their advice as well. It is my belief that most of us like the
> > simplicity of one set of sails and the ease of jumping on our boat and
> > heading out for a sail without hanking on the sails.
> >
> > I have an innermast main - I assume I want the main sail with a Batten.
> >
> > Please - talk to me - do you like your sail size? What should I buy? -
> > Should I try a 130 genoa? By the way - I do not regularly race but like
> > all
> > of us -when another boat sails close I don't want to be behind - so speed
> > is
> > an issue. - I wonder if the efficiency of a smaller unreefed sail will
> > improve speed.
> >
> > rob
> >
> > rob
> > --
> > Robert O. Baldi
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