[Rhodes22-list] Genoa size - 130 or 150

Wed Dec 8 20:16:22 EST 2010

Rob,

I have a 130 genny,but I sail on a small, well protected ,inland lake with
a 10 hp limit.So we may be talking watermelons and grapes,but here goes.
On a small lake,you have to tack alot,and the 130 seldom hangs up on it's
way across the foredeck. When on a close reach and the wind is up,Ill furl
the sail to 100%,and route the sheets inside the upper shrouds and gain 10
to 15 degrees to the good on pointing.I've never had the 175,but I start
furling the 130 when the wind gets over 10 mph.On my waters,if the wind is
10mph the gusts are 15mph or better. You could probably wait until the
wind got up to 12mph if there were no gusts.I think you can get to hull
speed with 9 or 10mph wind with the 130.
I have the vertical batton main and really like it.

Jerry Lowe
S/V Country Rhodes

> Rob,
>
> Here's a West Marine article that supports a smaller furling headsail:
>
> "One area of caution: we think you can effectively reduce your headsail
> area
> by about 30%â€“from a 130% to a 100%â€“but not much further. We've all
> seen ads
> in sailing magazines which imply that your 150% genoa can be rolled into a
> storm jib, but that is nonsense. If you sail in an area where the
> prevailing
> winds are light in one season and heavy in another, you'll probably want
> two
> furling headsails: a 135% and a 110%, for example."
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/WestAdvisorView?langId=-1&storeId=11151&catalogId=10001&page=Roller-Furling-Reefing-Systems
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/WestAdvisorView?langId=-1&storeId=11151&catalogId=10001&page=Roller-Furling-Reefing-Systems
>
> SAIL magazine recently had an article on headsail size and stated that
> headsails lose their effectiveness beyond 150% for most boats.  I assume
> they were talking about close reaches and I'm not convinced that a 175% on
> a
> Rhodes22 will move you faster than a smaller Genoa on a close reach in the
> same conditions.  However, you aren't always racing another boat on a
> close
> reach and that big sail will definitely give you a lot of power on a beam
> reach or off the wind.
>
> I still think bigger is better when it comes to head
> sails.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> Pat &amp; Mary Ann wrote:
>>
>> Robert,
>> I have a 110% foresail and really enjoy it.  I started with a 150 and
>> found
>> I had it furled half the time when I was soloing. I have an inmast
>> furling
>> main that is ok.  The leech has a tentency to flutter a little, but can
>> be
>> controlled with the leech cords.
>> Pat Devig
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Baldi" <rob.o.baldi at gmail.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Cc: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf1 at verizon.net>; <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:03 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa size - 130 or 150
>>
>>
>> Hello
>> My name is Robert Baldi - I have owned my Rhodes for more than 10 years.
>> Jay
>> Friedland and I sail off of Long Beach Island N.J. We each have our own
>> boats. I used to be on the list using my email address name of Moses2u,
>> and
>> I know some of you from my days when I was regularly on the list - years
>> ago.
>>
>> Here is my question: I plan to buy a new set of sails. I currently have
>> what
>> I think is a 150 genoa. I am not a timid sailor, but I am looking for
>> performance and therefore I am considering buying a smaller Genoa. I do
>> a great deal of solo sailing. Most often the wind is more than10-12
>> knots
>> and frequently 14+. I  regularly reef my genoa to some extent- probably
>> more
>> than half the time I go out solo.
>>
>> My first premise ( I am looking for guidance on this) is that a sail is
>> at
>> maximum performance full out and not reefed. Therefore I will obtain
>> maximum
>> performance most of the time with a smaller Genoa.
>>
>> I will miss the larger Genoa some of the time, --- but will the better
>> performance for most of the time (more than 50%) compensate my feeling
>> of
>> disappointment on those days when I could have used a larger sail -  On
>> those days (wind from 7 to 10 knots) when I would have sailed the 150 at
>> 100%.
>>
>> My furling system is the old General Boats basic design where the sail
>> is
>> screwed to the tube. I do not intend to buy a new system and two sets of
>> sails - but if there are people who regularly change their sail -I will
>> listen to their advice as well. It is my belief that most of us like the
>> simplicity of one set of sails and the ease of jumping on our boat and
>> heading out for a sail without hanking on the sails.
>>
>> I have an innermast main - I assume I want the main sail with a Batten.
>>
>> Please - talk to me - do you like your sail size? What should I buy? -
>> Should I try a 130 genoa? By the way - I do not regularly race but like
>> all
>> of us -when another boat sails close I don't want to be behind - so
>> speed
>> is
>> an issue. - I wonder if the efficiency of a smaller unreefed sail will
>> improve speed.
>>
>> rob
>>
>> rob
>> --
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