[Rhodes22-list] What do you suggest as replacement

Mary Lou Troy mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Wed Jul 14 20:07:45 EDT 2010 

Geoff,
We loved our Honda 8 (a 1998 - they later sold the model as the 
'classic"). It did not have a flush port (had to use muffs (nearly 
impossible in a slip)) and died of saltwater clogging of the cooling 
passages and corrosion after we moved to MD. Actually, it probably 
could have been revived but would have cost more than a new motor. We 
like the Yamaha even better though it weighs more. The Yamaha has a 
handy hose connection for flushing. Ours is supposed to be a 2007. I 
think you can flush the new Hondas though you may have to remove the 
cowling to do so. The high thrust option looks attractive. It makes a 
big difference in some conditions. I see the Honda is available in 3 
shaft lengths. Check with Stan on which is appropriate. I think ours 
is 25 but it might be less. Neither Fred nor I are certain. We don't 
have power tilt and didn't feel a need for it - more weight. With the 
motor lift all the way up the propeller drags a bit when we heel on 
the one tack but not badly.

Where is the boat going to be in salt water?

I asked about the well because we are on the Eastern Shore of MD 
(Delmarva Peninsula - directly across the Chesapeake from Baltimore) 
and have a well but public sewer.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 07:11 PM 7/14/2010, you wrote:
>Mary Lou, yes, our full time residence is in a rural area of Wisconsin where
>we have our own well and septic. A water softener is a must, especially when
>the water tables get low.
>
>The T8PLH Yamaha 8 power thrust looks like a perfect setup for the Rhodes
>with the long tiller and tiller mounted controls and Christopher and Mike
>seem to love theirs. I don't think it's made any more though. Seems the
>latest model year I can find is 2006.
>
>The Honda BF8 with the power thrust design looks like an acceptable
>alternative (http://marine.honda.com/Products/modeldetail/BF8) and it does
>have power tilt and a 25" shaft version. If anyone out there has any
>experience with this motor I'd love to get your thoughts.
>
>I'm glad you mentioned the flush port as I forgot about that being a
>requirement. Our Rhodes will be in the salt for about 5 to 6 months of the
>year.
>
>Thanks, Geoff
>On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
> > Geoff, you must live somewhere on well water like we do.
> >
> > Motor looks interesting. A step in the right direction as far as
> > weight is concerned. If I were looking at it seriously, I'd want a
> > longer shaft and a bigger prop. It says other props optional but 20"
> > is the longest shaft. Would also want the external fuel tank. Because
> > we keep the boat in a slip, I would want to know if it has a flush
> > port (most Yamahas do). It doesn't have electric start which would be
> > a deal breaker for us as I have difficulty getting a long and quick
> > enough pull to start most outboards. We also really like our motor
> > controls in the cockpit but we do a lot of motoring and a lot of
> > maneuvering in unfamiliar territory when we  take slips at other
> > marinas or navigate in busy channels when cruising. I believe there
> > are some folks on the list with 6 horse outboards who find them
> > perfectly adequate for their needs.
> >
> > A lighter motor would be really nice both in terms of getting it on
> > and off the boat and in terms of the trim of the boat. Our Yamaha 8
> > high thrust weighs over 100 lbs. It's a pain in the butt if you have
> > to get it on or off the boat when the boat is in the water.
> > Fortunately, we've only had to do that once when we first got it. I'm
> > sure all that weight on the transom adversely affects the way the
> > boat handles though its not really noticeable. The tradeoff is that
> > we really like the electric start, the high thrust design, the longer
> > shaft and the cockpit controls.
> >
> > Best,
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:58 PM 7/14/2010, you wrote:
> > >Wow, take a look at this 62-pound Yamaha 6HP 4-stroke. Weighs less than a
> > >large bag of water softener salt!
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/Hot_Sheets/June_2010_Hotsheets/F6_F4%20Hot%20Sheet%20FINAL%20FINAL%207-1-10.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Chris Cowie
> > ><ccowie at cowieassociates.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have the same Yamaha 8HP as Mike and love it.  The engine tiller
> > works
> > > > fine and it runs great.  I flush out the water system after each use
> > and
> > > > also remove the gas line and let the engine run dry.
> > > >
> > > > Christopher P. Cowie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> > > > Suite 300
> > > > Washington, DC  20007
> > > > 202.342.2711
> > > > 202.342.2691 fax
> > > > 202.270.1470 mobile
> > > >
> > > > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> > > > cowieassociates.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> > > > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mike Cheung
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:05 PM
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you suggest as replacement
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at the Yamaha 4 cycle 8 hp electric start with the high
> > thrust
> > > > prop; T8PLH is the model we have I believe; which also has power tilt.
> >  We
> > > > have one on Muireann and it's been great.  It isn't rigged with the on
> > > > rudder tiller controls though.  Rather the engine controls are on the
> > > > engine
> > > > tiller.  This works out fine operating the helm and motor from the aft
> > port
> > > > position (we have a seat there, but it would work fine without).  Not
> > as
> > > > slick as the on rudder tiller controls, but darned close.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Mike Cheung
> > > > s/v Muireann 1993/2008 Rhodes 22
> > > > --
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