[Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?

Lisa Lias lisalias at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 12:59:34 EST 2011 

Come to think of it, that may have been exactly what we did. We tried it
when we first got the boat and were learning what was what and I think I
forgot that detail because it was way back before winter hit and the trip
idea is brand new. Thank you for reminding me!

Lisa

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Lisa,
> Are you sure you need the wood backing? On our R22, a 1991 model, the
> cockpit table fits almost exactly in the space between the
> companionway step and the flip-up seat next to the v-berth. We
> originally had lips screwed on to the seat and the step to support
> the table in its "bed" position. The screws kept backing out so we
> made a permanent support on the compression post and a swing out
> support for the other end. Works well and we don't need wooden backs
> on our cushions.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 12:38 PM 2/3/2011, you wrote:
> >That would be easier but we are (knock wood) going to be doing a trip that
> >will have us sleeping aboard for some nights. Ron is a bit tall for the V
> >berth so the bed will be the re-arranging of the cabin cushions to make a
> >bed. We tried it with our current cushions and they are designed well -
> the
> >back cushions fit right in next to the seat cushions and the better part
> of
> >the cabin becomes a bed. But they have to have hard backing to do this
> >because they span a bit of empty space. So when we remake them or buy new
> >ones, that feature is needed.
> >
> >Lisa
> >
> >On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > My cabin cushions do not have a wood backing and it makes for easy
> storage
> > > in the basement for winter storage at home.
> > >
> > > Christopher P. Cowie
> > >
> > >
> > > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> > > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:22 PM
> > > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?
> > >
> > > Hey Ron,
> > >        I built a lot of those cushions over the last 35 years.  I am
> > > assuming you are talking about cabin cushions, not cockpit cushions.  I
> > > agree for cockpit cushions that you not back them with wood, the
> simplest
> > > solution for cockpit are "bottomsiders" I think they are called.  They
> have
> > > patterns as I remember for the Rhodes.   But I digress, use the old
> cabin
> > > cushions as your template and cut the foam with that electric knife
>  (works
> > > great, but clean it off or when turkey time comes you get yelled at by
> your
> > > wife, I know). Use the old material as a pattern for the new stuff. Do
> the
> > > same with the wood but use 1/4 inch marine ply.  Varnish it with 3
> coats of
> > > varnish with special attention to the edges.  When all is dry, place
> the
> > > cloth down, then the foam, then the wood.  Kneel lightly on the wood to
> > > slightly compress the foam and pull the cloth tight and around to the
> back
> > > of the plywood you are kneeling on.  Use stainless steel (inox) staples
> for
> > > a staple gun like an Arrow T-50.  3/8 staples should be about right.
>  Work
> > > the perimeter in a pattern to keep even tension on the cloth checking
> > > occasionally to see that you aren't creating wrinkles.  If you screw
> up,
> > > just pull the staples out and start over.  Once you get the rhythm it
> is
> > > surprisingly quick and easy.
> > > Good luck and take some pictures of the process.
> > > Chris Geankoplis
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:11 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?
> > >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > 3/8" plywood will make them kinda heavy, might want to go down to 1/4".
> > >  The
> > > best thing to use to cut the foam is an electric knife like you use to
> > > carve
> > > a turkey.  Sounds funny, but that's what the pros use and you can
> really
> > > shape and sculpt the foam however you want with it.  I used it to build
> > > some
> > > for my boat and it worked well.  Picked up some outdoor fabric at
> Joanns
> > > and
> > > they came out nice.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hank
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Ron Kaye <ronkaye343 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good Rhodies,
> > > >
> > > > Lisa and I are still newbies and have sailed our Rhodes very little
> to
> > > > date.  We are thinking that surely this subject has come up and many
> of
> > > you
> > > > have done this.  In futzing around in the cockpit we found that the
> > > > cushions
> > > > were in some degree of being worn out - the luan backerboard seems to
> > > have
> > > > collected some condensation or other source of water in the past and
> it
> > > is
> > > > failing (though it was dry at the time), the staples are corroding,
> > > fabric
> > > > coming loose to the touch.  Anyway, we need to replace those
> cushions.
> > > >
> > > > Now the basic idea is get some suitable wood, tear the others down
> and
> > > use
> > > > the surviving pieces as a template to cut new backers.  Get some
> foam,
> > > cut
> > > > or cut it ourselves (if that is doable).  Get fabric and staple it
> back
> > > > down.  Have a beer.
> > > >
> > > > I have a compressor and a staple gun so I think I can manage thre
> > > stapling.
> > > > Also I have a jigsaw and circular saws and the ability and patience
> (I
> > > > hope)
> > > > to cut the plywood.
> > > >
> > > > We aren't gong to match anything but simply redo all the cushions.
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking 3/8" marine grade plywood for the backers?
> > > >
> > > > We are open to suggestions for the best kind of fabric, and
> > > >
> > > > Most of all what kind of foam, how dense, how thick, a reaosnable
> source
> > > > and
> > > > do they cut it or can I cut it somehow (utility knife)?
> > > >
> > > > Now it might be that it is simply not worth it, that the Acme Co can
> do
> > > it
> > > > so reasonably and so well that it doesn't make sense to bother.  My
> hunch
> > > > is
> > > > that services who do this whole job would be quite expensive.
> > > >
> > > >  ("Nautisaurus" purchased Sept '10, sailed twice, 85 hull, refurbed
> in
> > > 2005
> > > > and pretty much refurbed again in 2010 through multiple work-orders
> to
> > > > Stan. On blocks now on the middle Potomac, MD.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any groovy advise on this project.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ron & Lisa
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