[Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?

[Mary Lou Troy]

Lisa,
Are you sure you need the wood backing? On our R22, a 1991 model, the 
cockpit table fits almost exactly in the space between the 
companionway step and the flip-up seat next to the v-berth. We 
originally had lips screwed on to the seat and the step to support 
the table in its "bed" position. The screws kept backing out so we 
made a permanent support on the compression post and a swing out 
support for the other end. Works well and we don't need wooden backs 
on our cushions.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 12:38 PM 2/3/2011, you wrote:
>That would be easier but we are (knock wood) going to be doing a trip that
>will have us sleeping aboard for some nights. Ron is a bit tall for the V
>berth so the bed will be the re-arranging of the cabin cushions to make a
>bed. We tried it with our current cushions and they are designed well - the
>back cushions fit right in next to the seat cushions and the better part of
>the cabin becomes a bed. But they have to have hard backing to do this
>because they span a bit of empty space. So when we remake them or buy new
>ones, that feature is needed.
>
>Lisa
>
>On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>wrote:
>
> > My cabin cushions do not have a wood backing and it makes for easy storage
> > in the basement for winter storage at home.
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> >
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:22 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?
> >
> > Hey Ron,
> >        I built a lot of those cushions over the last 35 years.  I am
> > assuming you are talking about cabin cushions, not cockpit cushions.  I
> > agree for cockpit cushions that you not back them with wood, the simplest
> > solution for cockpit are "bottomsiders" I think they are called.  They have
> > patterns as I remember for the Rhodes.   But I digress, use the old cabin
> > cushions as your template and cut the foam with that electric knife  (works
> > great, but clean it off or when turkey time comes you get yelled at by your
> > wife, I know). Use the old material as a pattern for the new stuff. Do the
> > same with the wood but use 1/4 inch marine ply.  Varnish it with 3 coats of
> > varnish with special attention to the edges.  When all is dry, place the
> > cloth down, then the foam, then the wood.  Kneel lightly on the wood to
> > slightly compress the foam and pull the cloth tight and around to the back
> > of the plywood you are kneeling on.  Use stainless steel (inox) staples for
> > a staple gun like an Arrow T-50.  3/8 staples should be about right.  Work
> > the perimeter in a pattern to keep even tension on the cloth checking
> > occasionally to see that you aren't creating wrinkles.  If you screw up,
> > just pull the staples out and start over.  Once you get the rhythm it is
> > surprisingly quick and easy.
> > Good luck and take some pictures of the process.
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:11 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sound cushion advice?
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > 3/8" plywood will make them kinda heavy, might want to go down to 1/4".
> >  The
> > best thing to use to cut the foam is an electric knife like you use to
> > carve
> > a turkey.  Sounds funny, but that's what the pros use and you can really
> > shape and sculpt the foam however you want with it.  I used it to build
> > some
> > for my boat and it worked well.  Picked up some outdoor fabric at Joanns
> > and
> > they came out nice.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Ron Kaye <ronkaye343 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Good Rhodies,
> > >
> > > Lisa and I are still newbies and have sailed our Rhodes very little to
> > > date.  We are thinking that surely this subject has come up and many of
> > you
> > > have done this.  In futzing around in the cockpit we found that the
> > > cushions
> > > were in some degree of being worn out - the luan backerboard seems to
> > have
> > > collected some condensation or other source of water in the past and it
> > is
> > > failing (though it was dry at the time), the staples are corroding,
> > fabric
> > > coming loose to the touch.  Anyway, we need to replace those cushions.
> > >
> > > Now the basic idea is get some suitable wood, tear the others down and
> > use
> > > the surviving pieces as a template to cut new backers.  Get some foam,
> > cut
> > > or cut it ourselves (if that is doable).  Get fabric and staple it back
> > > down.  Have a beer.
> > >
> > > I have a compressor and a staple gun so I think I can manage thre
> > stapling.
> > > Also I have a jigsaw and circular saws and the ability and patience (I
> > > hope)
> > > to cut the plywood.
> > >
> > > We aren't gong to match anything but simply redo all the cushions.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking 3/8" marine grade plywood for the backers?
> > >
> > > We are open to suggestions for the best kind of fabric, and
> > >
> > > Most of all what kind of foam, how dense, how thick, a reaosnable source
> > > and
> > > do they cut it or can I cut it somehow (utility knife)?
> > >
> > > Now it might be that it is simply not worth it, that the Acme Co can do
> > it
> > > so reasonably and so well that it doesn't make sense to bother.  My hunch
> > > is
> > > that services who do this whole job would be quite expensive.
> > >
> > >  ("Nautisaurus" purchased Sept '10, sailed twice, 85 hull, refurbed in
> > 2005
> > > and pretty much refurbed again in 2010 through multiple work-orders to
> > > Stan. On blocks now on the middle Potomac, MD.)
> > >
> > > Thanks for any groovy advise on this project.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron & Lisa
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