[Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question

Rhodes22Dave rhodes22dave at gmail.com
Sun Feb 6 23:40:07 EST 2011 

My ten year old R22 sits all year in the water at Lake Travis near Austin. It is navy blue and heavily oxidized and dull looking. I've waxed it a few times, but that lasted only a few months. So my new one arriving this week is the same color but with a polyurethane finish over the gel coat. An extra $2,500. 

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On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> I agree with Mike and would get whatever color you like best.  Blue
> seems to be the most popular but I've seen Rhodes22s in red, green, and
> white; and I think they all look good.  I've only seen it in pictures
> but Rummy's banana boat might be the most striking.
> 
> As for heat I think it's insignificant on our hulls.  Our boats are easy
> to ventilate and if the cabin is closed tight on a hot rainy day you're
> going to be uncomfortable no matter which color you choose.  Our small
> topsides probably get less direct mid-day sunlight than most hulls
> anyway because they're somewhat shaded by the flared shape.
> 
> I think more sailboats have white hulls because of the extra cost
> charged by most manufacturers and the problem with fading.  If Mike's
> twelve year old boat is just now starting to fade it may not be much of
> an issue.  You've seen my red hull which is six years old and has never
> been waxed.  It still looks great.  I powerwash it once a year and that
> probably does little to prevent oxidation.
> 
> I still think red is faster.
> 
> Lee
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Corley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:17 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question
> 
> New boats are like brides; they are all beautiful even if it is the
> second
> time around.  I have seen dark blue (most common), light blue, red,
> green
> and white hulled Rhodes.  It really is personal preference.  I thought
> the
> green was the most distinctive.  If you are concerned about fading in
> the
> Florida sun then go with white.  My dark blue 99 is just now starting to
> show signs of hazing/fading.  I may compound it this spring.  Normally,
> I
> just wax it once a year.  In the winter I cover it with a large (20x30)
> tarp
> that covers the sides.  I have heard that the newer finishes GB is using
> are
> even more durable and fade resistant.  I don't think they even recommend
> waxing anymore.
> 
> Mike
> S/V Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, Va.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:45 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Congrats on your boat.
>> 
>> Personally I prefer the classic white sailboat look with blue trim.
> But
>> that's just me.
>> 
>> John S
>> 
>> 
>> peter klappert wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What a gorgeous new R22, Geoff!
>>> 
>>> I'm about to order mine and need to decide hull color. Geoff's boat
> has
>> me
>>> reconsidering, but unlike Mary Lou, I lean toward something other
> than
>>> white.
>>> 
>>> Lots of folks say (claim?) a dark color makes the cabin hot, even if
> the
>>> deck & cockpit are white. Is that true? Does anyone regret buying a
>>> colored hull for this--or any--reason?
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou: since you have a white hull but a blue cockpit (navy?
> royal?),
>>> do you find the cockpit gets hot to sit in?
>>> 
>>> This is especially important as I'll keep the R22 in Florida.
>>> 
>>> Also, does anyone have experience with one of the deck surfaces that
> look
>>> like wood (or try to look like wood)? I saw something called New
> Teak in
>>> Annapolis, but there are other brands, too.
>>> 
>>> Thanx,
>>> 
>>> P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> SONG
>>> 
>>> I could tell
>>> Of silence where
>>> One ran before
>>> Himself and fell
>>> Into silence
>>> Yet more fair.
>>> 
>>>      --Yvor Winters
>>> 
>>>>>>>> o<<<<<
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:01:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
>>> 
>>> Geoff,
>>> Great looking boat.
>>> 
>>> I really like the look of a white Rhodes. Fretless before recycling
>>> was a blue boat. The gelcoat had faded badly. Stan described the
>>> color as "an experiment that didn't work well". When he told us he
>>> had this boat available, he said he was going to paint her and asked
>>> what color we would like. We said we had been thinking about a white
>>> boat but we weren't too sure about putting white paint over blue
>>> gelcoat. Stan said he didn't think it would be a problem and 12
> years
>>> later the boat still looks great. The bonus is that we got a blue
>>> gelcoat cockpit (easy on the eyes in bright sun and doesn't show as
>>> much dirt) as we decided that painting surfaces we walked on
> wouldn't
>>> be such a good idea.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22  Fretless
>>> recycled in 1998
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 08:55 AM 1/31/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Thanks Bob. Yes, it's new. I will probably take advantage of your
> offer
>> of
>>>> stepping help. I won't be doing the BEER cruise because we'll be
> back in
>> WI
>>>> by late April this year.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave, I believe I did get the instructions from Stan. I just haven't
> read
>>>> his literature yet. About the motor, I meant I would start it after
>> hooking
>>>> it up to the hose. But, thanks for the warning, because I have done
> way
>> more
>>>> stupider things then that!
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Geoff, I hope you gave many great years with your boat.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you not get the written instructions from Stan for stepping
> and
>>>>> unstepping the mast?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you mention that you were starting the motor with the boat on
> the
>>>>> trailer?  Not letting it run I hope.  It needs to be in the water
> to
>>>> cool
>>>>> the engine when running.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best to you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Bradley
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Bob Keller
> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Geoff,
>>>>>> Congratulations!  Is the boat new because it looks it?  The
>>>>> stepping/unstepping procedure is very intimidating at first but
> after
>> a
>>>> few
>>>>> hundred times it will be like second nature.  Best advice I ever
> got
>>>> was:
>>>>> before you do anything, just ask yourself "what will be holding
> up the
>>>>> mast?"  Works every time because if you can't figure that out
> then
>>>> don't do
>>>>> it!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best of luck.  If you ever need advice about
> stepping/unstepping
>>>> please
>>>>> ask because I have learned many shortcuts over the years.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, are you going to do the BEER cruise this year-it is out of
>>>> Pensacola
>>>>> first week of June?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.sailingpensacola.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=680
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob K
>>>>>> Yankee Clipper
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:40:12 -0600
>>>>>>> From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We got back to Gulf Shores on Thursday PM. Total trip was
> about 18
>>>>> hours. I
>>>>>>> never drove over about 60 and was totally freaked after first
>>>> leaving
>>>>>>> Stan's. Here I am driving on the highway with all these other
>>>> vehicles
>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> have this beautiful boat behind me that anyone on the road
> could
>>>> smash
>>>>> into
>>>>>>> if they happen to receive a text message that they just can't
>> resist
>>>>> reading
>>>>>>> while I'm slowing down for traffic. Whew! And, there do seem
> to be
>>>> many
>>>>>>> people on the highway staring down at their lap smiling. My
>>>> assumption
>>>>> has
>>>>>>> always been that they are reading a text message; although;
> it's
>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>> possible that they're staring at something else in their lap
> and
>>>> that's
>>>>>>> what's producing the smiles (at least the men). Not that
> there's
>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> wrong with that, but, certainly not while driving.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Every time I glanced at my rear view mirror I said to myself,
> "holy
>>>>> crap,
>>>>>>> I've actually finally done this thing that I've been dreaming
> about
>>>> for
>>>>> ages
>>>>>>> (actually, my first reaction was always "who is that a$$hole
>>>> tailgating
>>>>> me
>>>>>>> so closely? Oh wait, that's not a tailgater, that's my
> boat.").
>> It's
>>>>>>> amazing, though, that after a few hours of driving I finally
>> settled
>>>>> down
>>>>>>> and actually spent more time looking through my front
> windshield
>>>> than my
>>>>>>> rear view mirror. The F150 handled the towing fine. The extra
>> weight
>>>> I
>>>>>>> carried by towing the boat was offset by the lightness of my
> wallet
>>>>> after
>>>>>>> paying Stan.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stan's crew did a great job prepping the boat for trailering.
>>>> Everything
>>>>> was
>>>>>>> locked down. During one rest area I tightened down one strap
> about
>>>> 1/2
>>>>> inch
>>>>>>> and that was it! Wow.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While at Stan's the weather was miserable. Rain and cold. When
> I
>>>> arrived
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> boat was sitting in his yard fully rigged. We launched the
> boat
>> just
>>>> to
>>>>> go
>>>>>>> through the trailering procedure but we couldn't sail. Very
> cold
>> and
>>>> a
>>>>> thick
>>>>>>> fog. Once back on land his crew took me through the derigging
>>>> procedure
>>>>> one
>>>>>>> step at a time. I participated somewhat, but my hands were so
> cold
>> I
>>>>>>> couldn't even take the rings off the pins. While the derigging
> was
>>>> going
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my wife Joyce was standing by with an umbrella, a pencil, and
> a
>>>> soggy
>>>>> piece
>>>>>>> of paper writing down all the steps as I yelled each one to
> her
>> over
>>>> the
>>>>>>> sounds of wind and rain. You know, things like "remove the pin
> from
>>>> the
>>>>> aft
>>>>>>> lower shroud and connect the turnbuckle to the.....". You get
> the
>>>> idea.
>>>>> Over
>>>>>>> dinner that night we tried to decipher the soggy, smudged list
> she
>>>> had
>>>>>>> written and the above item came out something like "remove the
> pin
>>>> after
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> low shods and turn the buckles." We had some good laughs.
> Maybe it
>>>> was
>>>>> just
>>>>>>> the martinis I was drinking. I so wish I would have had a
> video cam
>>>> to
>>>>>>> record the whole thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We spent the night at the Captain's Quarters B&B in downtown
>> Edenton
>>>>> (what a
>>>>>>> beautiful town Edenton is). The next day we added some straps
> to
>> the
>>>> rig
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> were on our way. We stopped at a rest stop before Atlanta and
> slept
>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> few hours in the truck and then proceeded. No way was I going
> to
>>>> leave
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> rig in a hotel parking lot. I wouldn't have slept well
> worrying all
>>>>> night
>>>>>>> about the boat while suffering separation anxiety. I did sleep
>>>>> relatively
>>>>>>> well at the rest stop knowing the boat was attached to me via
> a
>>>> steel
>>>>>>> umbilical cord of sorts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The first day's drive was windy, cold, and rainy. The second
> day
>> was
>>>>>>> beautiful. We were soooo happy to be out of the cold wet
> weather.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The boat is sitting in our boat yard here at the condo where I
> just
>>>>> stand
>>>>>>> there and stare at it lovingly. For the next few days I'll be
>>>> sorting
>>>>>>> through things, getting some supplies, prepping and starting
> the
>>>> engine,
>>>>>>> reading Stan's literature, etc. while I wait for our ramp work
> to
>> be
>>>>>>> completed so I can rig and launch (Rummy.... still
> interested?).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This boat is freaking gorgeous. What a beautiful product they
>> build.
>>>> It
>>>>> was
>>>>>>> great to finally meet Stan and Rose; they look well. Mark and
> the
>>>> crew
>>>>> were
>>>>>>> also wonderful.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to all of you who have supported me and advised me thus
> far
>>>> in
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> adventure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some initial pictures are at:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/geoffreylfarrell/Rhodes22?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL
> 8sbTOlv-LPg&feat=directlink
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Sling <daysails at aol.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey Geoff I think you got this right. Order in winter so you
> can
>>>> launch
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the Spring. Brace yourself for a rush of pride in ownership
> when
>>>> you
>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> it. Joe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> BigM wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm here at the Captain's Quarters in Edenton getting ready
> to go
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>>>>> to see my boat. I can't wait. Drive down (or up, actually)
> was
>>>>> perfect.
>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>> cold here though. Geoff
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