[Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question

Mon Feb 7 14:52:57 EST 2011

Exactly my experience, except after 5 years, it is still the same color.

Rick

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Rhodes22Dave <rhodes22dave at gmail.com>wrote:

> My ten year old R22 sits all year in the water at Lake Travis near Austin.
> It is navy blue and heavily oxidized and dull looking. I've waxed it a few
> times, but that lasted only a few months. So my new one arriving this week
> is the same color but with a polyurethane finish over the gel coat. An extra
> $2,500.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > I agree with Mike and would get whatever color you like best.  Blue
> > seems to be the most popular but I've seen Rhodes22s in red, green, and
> > white; and I think they all look good.  I've only seen it in pictures
> > but Rummy's banana boat might be the most striking.
> >
> > As for heat I think it's insignificant on our hulls.  Our boats are easy
> > to ventilate and if the cabin is closed tight on a hot rainy day you're
> > going to be uncomfortable no matter which color you choose.  Our small
> > topsides probably get less direct mid-day sunlight than most hulls
> > anyway because they're somewhat shaded by the flared shape.
> >
> > I think more sailboats have white hulls because of the extra cost
> > charged by most manufacturers and the problem with fading.  If Mike's
> > twelve year old boat is just now starting to fade it may not be much of
> > an issue.  You've seen my red hull which is six years old and has never
> > been waxed.  It still looks great.  I powerwash it once a year and that
> > probably does little to prevent oxidation.
> >
> > I still think red is faster.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Corley
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:17 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question
> >
> > New boats are like brides; they are all beautiful even if it is the
> > second
> > time around.  I have seen dark blue (most common), light blue, red,
> > green
> > and white hulled Rhodes.  It really is personal preference.  I thought
> > the
> > green was the most distinctive.  If you are concerned about fading in
> > the
> > Florida sun then go with white.  My dark blue 99 is just now starting to
> > show signs of hazing/fading.  I may compound it this spring.  Normally,
> > I
> > just wax it once a year.  In the winter I cover it with a large (20x30)
> > tarp
> > that covers the sides.  I have heard that the newer finishes GB is using
> > are
> > even more durable and fade resistant.  I don't think they even recommend
> > waxing anymore.
> >
> > Mike
> > S/V Ranger
> > 99 Rhodes
> > Hampton Roads, Va.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:45 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Congrats on your boat.
> >>
> >> Personally I prefer the classic white sailboat look with blue trim.
> > But
> >> that's just me.
> >>
> >> John S
> >>
> >>
> >> peter klappert wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What a gorgeous new R22, Geoff!
> >>>
> >>> I'm about to order mine and need to decide hull color. Geoff's boat
> > has
> >> me
> >>> reconsidering, but unlike Mary Lou, I lean toward something other
> > than
> >>> white.
> >>>
> >>> Lots of folks say (claim?) a dark color makes the cabin hot, even if
> > the
> >>> deck & cockpit are white. Is that true? Does anyone regret buying a
> >>> colored hull for this--or any--reason?
> >>>
> >>> Mary Lou: since you have a white hull but a blue cockpit (navy?
> > royal?),
> >>> do you find the cockpit gets hot to sit in?
> >>>
> >>> This is especially important as I'll keep the R22 in Florida.
> >>>
> >>> Also, does anyone have experience with one of the deck surfaces that
> > look
> >>> like wood (or try to look like wood)? I saw something called New
> > Teak in
> >>> Annapolis, but there are other brands, too.
> >>>
> >>> Thanx,
> >>>
> >>> P
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SONG
> >>>
> >>> I could tell
> >>> Of silence where
> >>> One ran before
> >>> Himself and fell
> >>> Into silence
> >>> Yet more fair.
> >>>
> >>>      --Yvor Winters
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> o<<<<<
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:01:00 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
> >>>
> >>> Geoff,
> >>> Great looking boat.
> >>>
> >>> I really like the look of a white Rhodes. Fretless before recycling
> >>> was a blue boat. The gelcoat had faded badly. Stan described the
> >>> color as "an experiment that didn't work well". When he told us he
> >>> had this boat available, he said he was going to paint her and asked
> >>> what color we would like. We said we had been thinking about a white
> >>> boat but we weren't too sure about putting white paint over blue
> >>> gelcoat. Stan said he didn't think it would be a problem and 12
> > years
> >>> later the boat still looks great. The bonus is that we got a blue
> >>> gelcoat cockpit (easy on the eyes in bright sun and doesn't show as
> >>> much dirt) as we decided that painting surfaces we walked on
> > wouldn't
> >>> be such a good idea.
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy!
> >>>
> >>> Mary Lou
> >>> 1991 R22  Fretless
> >>> recycled in 1998
> >>> Rock Hall, MD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 08:55 AM 1/31/2011, you wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Bob. Yes, it's new. I will probably take advantage of your
> > offer
> >> of
> >>>> stepping help. I won't be doing the BEER cruise because we'll be
> > back in
> >> WI
> >>>> by late April this year.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave, I believe I did get the instructions from Stan. I just haven't
> > read
> >>>> his literature yet. About the motor, I meant I would start it after
> >> hooking
> >>>> it up to the hose. But, thanks for the warning, because I have done
> > way
> >> more
> >>>> stupider things then that!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Geoff, I hope you gave many great years with your boat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you not get the written instructions from Stan for stepping
> > and
> >>>>> unstepping the mast?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you mention that you were starting the motor with the boat on
> > the
> >>>>> trailer?  Not letting it run I hope.  It needs to be in the water
> > to
> >>>> cool
> >>>>> the engine when running.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best to you,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Bradley
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Bob Keller
> > <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Geoff,
> >>>>>> Congratulations!  Is the boat new because it looks it?  The
> >>>>> stepping/unstepping procedure is very intimidating at first but
> > after
> >> a
> >>>> few
> >>>>> hundred times it will be like second nature.  Best advice I ever
> > got
> >>>> was:
> >>>>> before you do anything, just ask yourself "what will be holding
> > up the
> >>>>> mast?"  Works every time because if you can't figure that out
> > then
> >>>> don't do
> >>>>> it!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best of luck.  If you ever need advice about
> > stepping/unstepping
> >>>> please
> >>>>> ask because I have learned many shortcuts over the years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, are you going to do the BEER cruise this year-it is out of
> >>>> Pensacola
> >>>>> first week of June?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.sailingpensacola.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=680
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bob K
> >>>>>> Yankee Clipper
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:40:12 -0600
> >>>>>>> From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We got back to Gulf Shores on Thursday PM. Total trip was
> > about 18
> >>>>> hours. I
> >>>>>>> never drove over about 60 and was totally freaked after first
> >>>> leaving
> >>>>>>> Stan's. Here I am driving on the highway with all these other
> >>>> vehicles
> >>>>> and I
> >>>>>>> have this beautiful boat behind me that anyone on the road
> > could
> >>>> smash
> >>>>> into
> >>>>>>> if they happen to receive a text message that they just can't
> >> resist
> >>>>> reading
> >>>>>>> while I'm slowing down for traffic. Whew! And, there do seem
> > to be
> >>>> many
> >>>>>>> people on the highway staring down at their lap smiling. My
> >>>> assumption
> >>>>> has
> >>>>>>> always been that they are reading a text message; although;
> > it's
> >>>>> entirely
> >>>>>>> possible that they're staring at something else in their lap
> > and
> >>>> that's
> >>>>>>> what's producing the smiles (at least the men). Not that
> > there's
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>>>> wrong with that, but, certainly not while driving.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Every time I glanced at my rear view mirror I said to myself,
> > "holy
> >>>>> crap,
> >>>>>>> I've actually finally done this thing that I've been dreaming
> > about
> >>>> for
> >>>>> ages
> >>>>>>> (actually, my first reaction was always "who is that a$$hole
> >>>> tailgating
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>>> so closely? Oh wait, that's not a tailgater, that's my
> > boat.").
> >> It's
> >>>>>>> amazing, though, that after a few hours of driving I finally
> >> settled
> >>>>> down
> >>>>>>> and actually spent more time looking through my front
> > windshield
> >>>> than my
> >>>>>>> rear view mirror. The F150 handled the towing fine. The extra
> >> weight
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>> carried by towing the boat was offset by the lightness of my
> > wallet
> >>>>> after
> >>>>>>> paying Stan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Stan's crew did a great job prepping the boat for trailering.
> >>>> Everything
> >>>>> was
> >>>>>>> locked down. During one rest area I tightened down one strap
> > about
> >>>> 1/2
> >>>>> inch
> >>>>>>> and that was it! Wow.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While at Stan's the weather was miserable. Rain and cold. When
> > I
> >>>> arrived
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> boat was sitting in his yard fully rigged. We launched the
> > boat
> >> just
> >>>> to
> >>>>> go
> >>>>>>> through the trailering procedure but we couldn't sail. Very
> > cold
> >> and
> >>>> a
> >>>>> thick
> >>>>>>> fog. Once back on land his crew took me through the derigging
> >>>> procedure
> >>>>> one
> >>>>>>> step at a time. I participated somewhat, but my hands were so
> > cold
> >> I
> >>>>>>> couldn't even take the rings off the pins. While the derigging
> > was
> >>>> going
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> my wife Joyce was standing by with an umbrella, a pencil, and
> > a
> >>>> soggy
> >>>>> piece
> >>>>>>> of paper writing down all the steps as I yelled each one to
> > her
> >> over
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> sounds of wind and rain. You know, things like "remove the pin
> > from
> >>>> the
> >>>>> aft
> >>>>>>> lower shroud and connect the turnbuckle to the.....". You get
> > the
> >>>> idea.
> >>>>> Over
> >>>>>>> dinner that night we tried to decipher the soggy, smudged list
> > she
> >>>> had
> >>>>>>> written and the above item came out something like "remove the
> > pin
> >>>> after
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> low shods and turn the buckles." We had some good laughs.
> > Maybe it
> >>>> was
> >>>>> just
> >>>>>>> the martinis I was drinking. I so wish I would have had a
> > video cam
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> record the whole thing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We spent the night at the Captain's Quarters B&B in downtown
> >> Edenton
> >>>>> (what a
> >>>>>>> beautiful town Edenton is). The next day we added some straps
> > to
> >> the
> >>>> rig
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> were on our way. We stopped at a rest stop before Atlanta and
> > slept
> >>>> for
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> few hours in the truck and then proceeded. No way was I going
> > to
> >>>> leave
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> rig in a hotel parking lot. I wouldn't have slept well
> > worrying all
> >>>>> night
> >>>>>>> about the boat while suffering separation anxiety. I did sleep
> >>>>> relatively
> >>>>>>> well at the rest stop knowing the boat was attached to me via
> > a
> >>>> steel
> >>>>>>> umbilical cord of sorts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The first day's drive was windy, cold, and rainy. The second
> > day
> >> was
> >>>>>>> beautiful. We were soooo happy to be out of the cold wet
> > weather.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The boat is sitting in our boat yard here at the condo where I
> > just
> >>>>> stand
> >>>>>>> there and stare at it lovingly. For the next few days I'll be
> >>>> sorting
> >>>>>>> through things, getting some supplies, prepping and starting
> > the
> >>>> engine,
> >>>>>>> reading Stan's literature, etc. while I wait for our ramp work
> > to
> >> be
> >>>>>>> completed so I can rig and launch (Rummy.... still
> > interested?).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This boat is freaking gorgeous. What a beautiful product they
> >> build.
> >>>> It
> >>>>> was
> >>>>>>> great to finally meet Stan and Rose; they look well. Mark and
> > the
> >>>> crew
> >>>>> were
> >>>>>>> also wonderful.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks to all of you who have supported me and advised me thus
> > far
> >>>> in
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>> adventure.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some initial pictures are at:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/geoffreylfarrell/Rhodes22?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL
> > 8sbTOlv-LPg&feat=directlink
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Geoff
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Sling <daysails at aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hey Geoff I think you got this right. Order in winter so you
> > can
> >>>> launch
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> the Spring. Brace yourself for a rush of pride in ownership
> > when
> >>>> you
> >>>>> see
> >>>>>>>> it. Joe
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> BigM wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm here at the Captain's Quarters in Edenton getting ready
> > to go
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> Stan's
> >>>>>>>>> to see my boat. I can't wait. Drive down (or up, actually)
> > was
> >>>>> perfect.
> >>>>>>>>> It's
> >>>>>>>>> cold here though. Geoff
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