[Rhodes22-list] Rudder Rope Clutch

John Shulick jsbudda at verizon.net
Tue Feb 22 20:53:24 EST 2011 

Good point didn't think of that

John S 
(congrats to the Packers by the way, we got our asses handed to us but
there's always next year)


R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
> Why not use the topping lift???
>  
> Rummy
>  
>  
> In a message dated 2/22/2011 11:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> jsbudda at verizon.net writes:
> 
> 
> Lee,
> 
> If you hang a block on the backstay adjuster and  fix one on the rudder
> body
> you reduce the apparent weight of the assembly  by 50%. Start the line at 
> the
> backstay down to the tiller and then back up  through the backstay block.
> 
> John S
> 
> 
> 
> Leland wrote:
>>  
>> John,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That might work.   It seems like it would be a lot of weight but I guess
>> the pressure  would be on the forestay and mast, and they should be able
>> to handle  it easily.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My new removable tiller  extender requires a hole in the tiller to which
>> I fastened a line just  in case I dropped the rudder.  The tide was about
>> as low as I've  ever seen it but I still wouldn't have wanted to stick my
>> arm in that  icy water.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Next time I think I'll  enlist the help of a strong friend and just
>> manhandle the rudder onto  dry land-it's just less awkward to do the
>> repair work and easier to  find the nuts and bolts I drop.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  Thanks!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Lee
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Shulick
>>  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:44 AM
>> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder Rope  Clutch
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  Lee,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Do you have a backstay adjuster  on your boat? You could hang a block
>> from
>> 
>> the line  and use it to lift and secure the rudder/tiller while working
>>  on
>> 
>> it. Beats having to go swimming if it slips out of your  hands while
>> removing
>> 
>> or installing.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> John S
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Leland wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>  
>>> Visualize whirled peas and just give pizza chants.
>>  
>>>  
>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>>   
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>  ________________________________
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>  From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Rick
>>  
>>> Sent: Sun 2/20/2011 6:29 PM
>> 
>>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder Rope  Clutch
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>> Lee,
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I've  been operating on a wing nut for 15 years.  Save your prayers for
>>  
>>> world
>> 
>>> peace.
>> 
>>> 
>>  
>>> Rick
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 20,  2011 at 4:46 PM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> I was planning on going  out for a nice Sunday afternoon sail today
>> and
>>  
>>>> decided to first take five minutes and fix my rudder rope  clutch.
>> When
>> 
>>>> completely loose it's still so  tight that I can barely pull the rope
>> 
>>>> through
>>  
>>>> by hand.  I figured that all I would need to do is  loosen the bolt in
>> the
>> 
>>>> center of the  handle.
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> It took me awhile  to determine that the bottom end of the bolt is
>> what's
>>  
>>>> inside the handle which is why my screwdriver and socket  wrench
>> wouldn't
>> 
>>>> work.  The only other  tool I know how to use is a hammer but I
>> decided to
>>  
>>>> save that for later.
>> 
>>>> 
>>  
>>>> Have you ever taken your tiller/rudder off the boat while  it's in the
>> 
>>>> water?
>> 
>>>> It's  surprisingly heavy and unbelievably awkward.  It won't fit under
>>  the
>> 
>>>> stern rail so you have to bring it into the  cockpit on the starboard
>> side
>> 
>>>> to
>>  
>>>> avoid maneuvering around the engine.  One-handed passes  around the
>> 
>>>> backstay
>> 
>>>> wouldn't  have been so bad if the tiller would have let go of the
>>  
>>>> sternrail.
>> 
>>>> I don't recommend working  on your tiller/rudder in the cockpit but
>> the
>> 
>>>>  tide
>> 
>>>> was nearly two foot below normal and I would  have never been able to
>> 
>>>> wrestle
>>  
>>>> the thing above my head and onto dry land.
>>  
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> Since the bottom of the bolt was in  the handle that meant that the
>> head
>> 
>>>>  was
>> 
>>>> inside the tiller/rudder housing.  Removing  the clutch assembly from
>> the
>> 
>>>> housing was  relatively easy with just one of my three tools but the
>> rope
>>  
>>>> guide also had to be removed from the assembly and could not  be
>> removed
>> 
>>>> from
>> 
>>>> the  rope.  It eventually slid down into the housing and required more
>>  
>>>> time
>> 
>>>> to retrieve than it took to  maneuver the entire mess into the boat.
>> 
>>>> 
>>  
>>>> Alas I now had access to the head of the bolt but could not  turn it
>> 
>>>> without
>> 
>>>> turning the  handle also.  My neighbor is much stronger than me and
>>  has
>> 
>>>> every
>> 
>>>> tool in the world  so I took it to him to fix.  After breaking it I
>> 
>>>>  thanked
>> 
>>>> him and proceeded to every hardware store on  Kent Island to see if I
>> 
>>>> could
>>  
>>>> rig something simple that would work.
>>  
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> I'm now operating on a wingnut and  a prayer.  It seems to work in the
>> 
>>>> slip
>>  
>>>> but I was too tired to take her out for a test sail.   Maybe tomorrow.
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> The good  news is that parts were only two bucks.
>> 
>>>> 
>>  
>>>> Lee
>> 
>>>> 1986 Rhodes22  AT  EASE
>> 
>>>> Kent Island, MD
>> 
>>>>  
>> 
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