[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

Chris Geankoplis napoli68 at charter.net
Sat Aug 18 16:26:08 EDT 2012 

RV store, really cheap, I change mine out every 5-6 years for a couple of
bucks.

Chris G

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:52 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

Ken,

I have a table socket also is in bad shape.
Does anybody know where to buy them?
Thanks!
Cary
86- Whisper
Radford,VA
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would never have thought of the table socket.
>
> Thanks, Stephen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stephan
> > I got a lot in through the table leg socket in the cocpit . The die
> > casting corroded and cracked rain soaked the foam and wound up in
> > the bilge
> > Ken
> > (if I could splell!)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> > wrote:
> >
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> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>  1. Re: V Berth redo (Stephen Staum)
> >>  2. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
> >>  3. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> >>  4. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
> >>  5. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Lowe, Rob)
> >>  6. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
> >>  7. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Michael D. Weisner)
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:50:01 -0400
> >> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <888CF65BF2264EEC8C6A96FA9B3146FF at DadsLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>   reply-type=original
> >>
> >> My old '87 did not have pegboard, just carpet and it looked good.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bill Pauer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:41 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen a v berth without the pegboard?  I am redoing the
> >> interior of our Rhodes and considering just running carpet up the
> >> sides of v berth.  Any thoughts?
> >> Thanks
> >> Bill
> >> __________________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:57:38 -0400
> >> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <4CF8D92A4B104786A60FF2C2318D00A3 at DadsLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>   reply-type=original
> >>
> >> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and
> >> I suspect
> >> the problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
> >> today for
> >> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
> >> instruction
> >> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?  Looking at it, I
> >> am not
> >> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that the step has to be
> >> removed first.
> >> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
> >> removed.
> >> Anyone have additional pictures of the project?  Or any theories on
> >> how lots
> >> of water is getting into the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that
> >> open.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >> Needham, MA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >> archives go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
> >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Message-ID: <862d9.61fc1c7b.3d5f8fcd at aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >>
> >> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
> >> make sure
> >> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently that
> >> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
> >> storms. The cap is
> >> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that
> >> this isn't
> >> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
> >> can
> >> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
> >> while in the
> >> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
> >> isn't the
> >> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
> >> a ride
> >> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
> >> check to
> >> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened
> >> a little
> >> bit.
> >> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
> >> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
> >> any gasket
> >> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
> >> rubber which
> >> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be
> >> cleaned with
> >> gasoline or other solvents.
> >> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>
> >> Rummy
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I
> >> suspect
> >> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
> >> today for
> >> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
> >> instruction
> >> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it,
> >> I am not
> >> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
> >> removed
> >> first.
> >> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
> >> removed.
> >> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories
> >> on how
> >> lots
> >> of water is getting into  the bilge? This boat has no hatches that
> >> open.
> >>
> >> Thanks in  advance,
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >> Needham,  MA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >> archives go
> >> to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >>
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> >> archives go
> >> to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:38:53 -0400
> >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <EDFFF193-3283-40DA-9C6B-CF448E8584DF at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;
> >> delsp=yes
> >>
> >> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday
> >> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. Promptly
> >> pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. Pumped the
> >> bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up to carpet
> >> in
> >> cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ Wed morning.
> >> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
> >> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
> >> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it
> >> looks like this A.M.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
> >>> make sure
> >>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently
> >>> that
> >>> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
> >>> storms. The cap is
> >>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that this
> >>> isn't
> >>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
> >>> can
> >>> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
> >>> while in the
> >>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
> >>> isn't the
> >>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
> >>> a ride
> >>> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
> >>> check to
> >>> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a
> >>> little
> >>> bit.
> >>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
> >>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
> >>> gasket
> >>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
> >>> rubber which
> >>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be cleaned
> >>> with
> >>> gasoline or other solvents.
> >>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
> >>> and I
> >>> suspect
> >>> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
> >>> today for
> >>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
> >>> instruction
> >>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
> >>> am not
> >>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
> >>> removed
> >>> first.
> >>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
> >>> removed.
> >>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on
> >>> how
> >>> lots
> >>> of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that
> >>> open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>> Stephen Staum
> >>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>> Needham,  MA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives go
> >>> to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives go
> >>> to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:59:47 -0400
> >> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B34A002040AB at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Stephen,
> >> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
> >> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight
> >> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the
> >> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from
> >> the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a
> >> look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good
> >> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose
> >> clamps.  Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would
> >> look at those before messing with the cap.  And how about the
> >> through hull for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through
> >> that? - rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>
> >> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
> >> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water
> >> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday
> >> nite/ Wed morning.
> >> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
> >> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
> >> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
> >> it looks like this A.M.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
> >>> make
> >>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
> >>> recently
> >>> that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
> >>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
> >>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend
> >>> drying it
> >>> out and seeing if you can determine  the entry point. It's a whole
> >>> lot
> >>> easier to find a leak while in the water  rather than a tear down
> >>> and
> >>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If  no water enters
> >>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can
> >>> get
> >>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of
> >>> the
> >>> bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
> >>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
> >>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
> >>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
> >>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced.
> >>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
> >>> and I
> >>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the
> >>> boat today for
> >>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
> >>> instruction
> >>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
> >>> am not
> >>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
> >>> removed
> >>> first.
> >>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
> >>> removed.
> >>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on
> >>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no
> >>> hatches that open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>> Stephen Staum
> >>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>> Needham,  MA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>> archives
> >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:53:12 -0400
> >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <68CB6650-75FE-41B2-B034-C90F8439496F at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;
> >> delsp=yes
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will
> >> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not - which
> >> points to the cap I think.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
> >>> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight
> >>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the
> >>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the
> >>> cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a look at
> >>> the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good look. The
> >>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.
> >>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at
> >>> those before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull
> >>> for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>>
> >>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
> >>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up
> >>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/
> >>> Wed morning.
> >>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
> >>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
> >>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
> >>> it looks like this A.M.
> >>>
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
> >>>> make
> >>>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
> >>>> recently
> >>>> that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
> >>>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
> >>>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend drying
> >>>> it
> >>>> out and seeing if you can determine  the entry point. It's a whole
> >>>> lot
> >>>> easier to find a leak while in the water  rather than a tear down
> >>>> and
> >>>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If  no water enters
> >>>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can
> >>>> get
> >>>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of
> >>>> the
> >>>> bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
> >>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then
> >>>> the
> >>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
> >>>> any
> >>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
> >>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be
> >>>> replaced.
> >>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
> >>>> and I
> >>>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the
> >>>> boat today for
> >>>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
> >>>> instruction
> >>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at
> >>>> it, I
> >>>> am not
> >>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
> >>>> removed
> >>>> first.
> >>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
> >>>> removed.
> >>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories
> >>>> on
> >>>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no
> >>>> hatches that open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>>> Stephen Staum
> >>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>>> Needham,  MA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>
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> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:58:28 -0400
> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <008701cd7c91$254d56a0$6fe803e0$@com>
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> >>
> >> The hose is not usually the problem.  It is the through hull
> >> fitting.  The
> >> gasket for the fitting on the '83 is probably long gone.  Be
> >> careful about
> >> tightening the nylon nut on the fitting as it may fracture
> >> unexpectedly
> >> (very bad if in the water) and it may be attempting to compress the
> >> fiberglass hull if there is little or no gasket material
> >> remaining.  You
> >> will need to haul to replace and rebed the fitting.
> >>
> >> The cockpit drain through hull fitting is usually out of the water
> >> when the
> >> boat is at anchor due to the shape of the hull.  It generally is
> >> pushed dow
> >> by weight in the stern (laz contents, batteries, engine or people)
> >> or by
> >> heavy seas.  The leak may be difficult to observe and water from
> >> the laz
> >> will usually flow forward, filling the cabin to the same level as
> >> the drain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v <- NoName -> ('91)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> >> Staum
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will
> >> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not -
> >> which points
> >> to the cap I think.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
> >>> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight
> >>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the
> >>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the
> >>> cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a look at
> >>> the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good look. The
> >>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.
> >>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at
> >>> those
> >>> before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull for the
> >>> sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>>
> >>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
> >>> Tuesday
> >>> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up
> >>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/
> >>> Wed morning.
> >>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
> >>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
> >>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
> >>> it
> >>> looks like this A.M.
> >>>
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
> >>>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
> >>>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during
> >>>> Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have
> >>>> seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I would
> >>>> recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  the entry
> >>>> point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the water
> >>>> rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the
> >>>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out
> >>>> for a
> >>>> ride and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around.
> >>>> Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together
> >>>> can
> >>>> be tightened a little bit.
> >>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then
> >>>> the
> >>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
> >>>> any
> >>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
> >>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be
> >>>> replaced.
> >>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
> >>>> and I
> >>>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the
> >>>> boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed,
> >>>> step
> >>>> by step instruction
> >>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at
> >>>> it, I
> >>>> am not
> >>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
> >>>> removed first.
> >>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
> >>>> removed.
> >>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories
> >>>> on
> >>>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no
> >>>> hatches that open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>>> Stephen Staum
> >>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>>> Needham,  MA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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