[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

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On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:26 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:

> RV store, really cheap, I change mine out every 5-6 years for a couple of
> bucks.
> 
> Chris G
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:52 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I have a table socket also is in bad shape.
> Does anybody know where to buy them?
> Thanks!
> Cary
> 86- Whisper
> Radford,VA
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would never have thought of the table socket.
>> 
>> Thanks, Stephen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Stephan
>>> I got a lot in through the table leg socket in the cocpit . The die
>>> casting corroded and cracked rain soaked the foam and wound up in
>>> the bilge
>>> Ken
>>> (if I could splell!)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Re: V Berth redo (Stephen Staum)
>>>> 2. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>>>> 3. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>>>> 4. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>>>> 5. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Lowe, Rob)
>>>> 6. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>>>> 7. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Michael D. Weisner)
>>>> 
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>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:50:01 -0400
>>>> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <888CF65BF2264EEC8C6A96FA9B3146FF at DadsLaptop>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>  reply-type=original
>>>> 
>>>> My old '87 did not have pegboard, just carpet and it looked good.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bill Pauer
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:41 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone seen a v berth without the pegboard?  I am redoing the
>>>> interior of our Rhodes and considering just running carpet up the
>>>> sides of v berth.  Any thoughts?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bill
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:57:38 -0400
>>>> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <4CF8D92A4B104786A60FF2C2318D00A3 at DadsLaptop>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>  reply-type=original
>>>> 
>>>> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and
>>>> I suspect
>>>> the problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
>>>> today for
>>>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>>> instruction
>>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?  Looking at it, I
>>>> am not
>>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that the step has to be
>>>> removed first.
>>>> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already
>>>> removed.
>>>> Anyone have additional pictures of the project?  Or any theories on
>>>> how lots
>>>> of water is getting into the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that
>>>> open.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham, MA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Message-ID: <862d9.61fc1c7b.3d5f8fcd at aol.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>> 
>>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>>> make sure
>>>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently that
>>>> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>>> storms. The cap is
>>>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that
>>>> this isn't
>>>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
>>>> can
>>>> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
>>>> while in the
>>>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
>>>> isn't the
>>>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
>>>> a ride
>>>> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
>>>> check to
>>>> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened
>>>> a little
>>>> bit.
>>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
>>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using
>>>> any gasket
>>>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
>>>> rubber which
>>>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be
>>>> cleaned with
>>>> gasoline or other solvents.
>>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>> 
>>>> Rummy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I
>>>> suspect
>>>> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
>>>> today for
>>>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>>> instruction
>>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it,
>>>> I am not
>>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
>>>> removed
>>>> first.
>>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
>>>> removed.
>>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories
>>>> on how
>>>> lots
>>>> of water is getting into  the bilge? This boat has no hatches that
>>>> open.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in  advance,
>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>>> Needham,  MA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:38:53 -0400
>>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <EDFFF193-3283-40DA-9C6B-CF448E8584DF at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;
>>>> delsp=yes
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday
>>>> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. Promptly
>>>> pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. Pumped the
>>>> bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up to carpet
>>>> in
>>>> cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ Wed morning.
>>>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>>>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>>>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it
>>>> looks like this A.M.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>>>> make sure
>>>>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently
>>>>> that
>>>>> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>>>> storms. The cap is
>>>>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that this
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you
>>>>> can
>>>>> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak
>>>>> while in the
>>>>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that
>>>>> isn't the
>>>>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for
>>>>> a ride
>>>>> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also,
>>>>> check to
>>>>> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a
>>>>> little
>>>>> bit.
>>>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
>>>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
>>>>> gasket
>>>>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM
>>>>> rubber which
>>>>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be cleaned
>>>>> with
>>>>> gasoline or other solvents.
>>>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring
>>>>> and I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat
>>>>> today for
>>>>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>>>> instruction
>>>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
>>>>> am not
>>>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be
>>>>> removed
>>>>> first.
>>>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
>>>>> removed.
>>>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on
>>>>> how
>>>>> lots
>>>>> of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that
>>>>> open.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in  advance,
>>>>> Stephen Staum
>>>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>>>> Needham,  MA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> archives go
>>>>> to
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>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:59:47 -0400
>>>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 
>>>> <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B34A002040AB at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen,
>>>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain
>>>> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight
>>>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the
>>>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
>>>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from
>>>> the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a
>>>> look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good
>>>> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose
>>>> clamps.  Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would
>>>> look at those before messing with the cap.  And how about the
>>>> through hull for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through
>>>> that? - rob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing
>>>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
>>>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
>>>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water
>>>> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday
>>>> nite/ Wed morning.
>>>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I
>>>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap
>>>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what
>>>> it looks like this A.M.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and
>>>>> make
>>>>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen
>>>>> recently
>>>>> that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>>>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
>>>>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend
>>>>> drying it
>>>>> out and seeing if you can determine  the entry point. It's a whole
>>>>> lot
>>>>> easier to find a leak while in the water  rather than a tear down
>>>>> and
>>>>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If  no water enters
>>>>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can
>>>>> get
>>>>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of
>>>>> the
>>>>> bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
>>>>> To remo

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