[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2960, Issue 1
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Fri Aug 24 12:49:05 EDT 2012
Having previously owned and sailed a Hobie 16 for many years, I can tell
you with some certainty that no skipper would want one of those floats on the
top of his mast. It screams......ASSHOLE ALERT. Look at me. I can't sail
so I have a safety float on the top of my mast. If you really need a life
jacket for your mast, it's time to sell your boat and purchase a recliner and
watch sailing on your TV. Sailing is not for the feeble minded or weak of
heart. It is dangerous, but we accept those challenges every single time we
go out.
Rummy
In a message dated 8/24/2012 8:27:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spreadgoodnews at gmail.com writes:
I would think by the time it deployed it would already be stuck in the
mud, but maybe. The hobie mast head is designed to minimize windage. Plus i
have always thought they were cool!
I have NEVER seen a masthead float on a cruiser.
Others might think you to be an extreme racer! Lol!
On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:53 AM, "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
wrote:
> I wonder if there is an auto inflate device out there that would inflate
> when the mast is submerged a couple of feet. It would mean less windage
> than the big ball on an old Hobie mast.
>
> Chris G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Bradley
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2960, Issue 1
>
> I'd think the combination of centerboard down and water shallow enough to
> put mast/spreader in the mud would introduce a different and potentially
> bigger problem.
>
> A float on the mast head would be an interesting option and might have
freed
> mine. Does anyone know, is that a standard item? When I took my mast
down
> yesterday the mast head was still full of dried mud. I'm surprised my
> spreader was not bent.
>
> It does seem that the flared hull, freeboard and cabin profile combine to
> create a tendency to roll in a lateral wind. The extreme weather
patterns
> this year have created more cyclonic winds on the East Coast than I ever
> recall experiencing. However, there were a number of other boats that
went
> over in the storm that hit us. One estimate was that 30 boats went over,
> most self-righting. Because our boat can be moored in shallower water,
> usually a benefit, it worked against us this time with the storm hitting
at
> low tide.
>
> Dave
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a very interesting set of observations! It seems the Rhodes
has a
> weakness being lightly ballasted and an unusual wind scoop (but otherwise
> beneficial) hull flare. Sudden gust heeling the vessel 90+ degrees
buried
> mast In shallow water. This is a big problem.
>> Preventative measures:
>> Leave centerboard down,
>> Increase ballast,
>> Fly an "anchor rider" sail,
>> Add a hobie masthead float.
>>
>> Perhaps even a combination. Any other ideas for prevention on a
mooring?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Richard MacArthur
> <Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What's going on? I thought my Rhodes 22 was self righting. Self
righting
> means that in even the strongest wind it will blow over 90 degrees but
not
> roll. It's supposed to stay at 90 degrees until the wind lets up and then
> right itself. A couple of weeks ago I was caught in a front moving in
and it
> blew about 35 knots. I let all sail free and with that I was heeling at
> about 45 degrees. It didn't go down all the way and as soon as I got the
> sail in, no problem. It seems that when the flare of the hull digs in the
> boat stiffens up. What happens to make it roll? The only thing I can
think
> of is if the vessel is held by the wind with the mast in the water so
that
> water can somehow enter the cabin then it loses its stability and has
only
> the flotation to keep it from sinking and this would allow it to turn
> turtle. I know some catamarans use a flotation device at the top of the
mast
> to stop the mast going to the bottom but the weight in the keel is
supposed
> to do that in a sel!
> f!
>> r!
>>> ighting vessel, unless the interior fills with water. Am I right on
this?
>
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: Advise me (Joe Camp)
>>> 2. Re: Advise me (Joe Camp)
>>> 3. Re: It's national rum month. (Charles Nieman)
>>> 4. Re: Advise me (Lowe, Rob)
>>> 5. Re: Advise me (Stephen Staum)
>>> 6. Re: Advise me (David Bradley)
>>> 7. Re: It's national rum month. (Shawn Boles)
>>> 8. Major Jones (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 9. Re: Advise me (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 10. Re: Advise me (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 11. Anchor light housing replacement (Patrick Fletcher)
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Mary Lou:
>>>
>>> ? ? ?I think you really have the solution here in considering the
flared
> hull as a potential (or the most likely)
>>> reason for these roll-overs... or mine, anyway.
>>>
>>> ? ? ?I have noted how tender the boat is when motoring with the tiller
> locked. ?The boat cannot maintain a straight course if I am moving about
the
> cabin. ?Of course, I am 230 pounds, and that's more ballast to adjust the
> course, but I have learned to steer the boat by changing my position
(even
> slightly) in the cockpit. ?My good sailing friend has a McGregor 25 and
he
> has more "wetted surface" ?(to borrow a term from Stan). ?He can lock his
> tiller and wander fore and aft and beam to beam yet still maintain his
basic
> course. He is more stable and takes more wind to heel the boat. ?Our keel
> weights are about the same. ?In the event that flipped my boat, his
moored
> just a hundred feet away, didn't have a cushion out of place. True, this
> could be due in part to the nature of the weather event itself, but still
> telling as to the side to side stability issue. ?BNy the way, the
integrity
> of my mast has been compromised by being buried in the bottom
>>> mud. Looks like a new mast is in the picture. ?Ah well, you've got to
> have stories to call yourself a sailor. ?Aye, mates??
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ??
>>> Joe Camp
>>> s/v John Dawson
>>> Bohemia River, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> I think any small relatively unballasted boat would be more at risk
>>>> on a mooring. Our boats also have a fair amount of windage with the
>>>> IMF and the flared hull. In a strong wind the poptops are probably
>>>> also a liability unless well secured. I've never felt unsafe at
>>>> anchor and we've been anchored in some pretty high winds but they
>>>> were of short duration and our anchorages are typically more
>>>> protected than most mooring fields.
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere I saw it noted that with the warming climate, the world is
>>>> a windier place. That certainly seems true here on the Chesapeake
>>>> (though not today).
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 06:13 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> Lack of a deep heavy keel is definitely a contributing factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Luck of the draw."? Yeah, odd that so many R-22s flipp like
>>>>> this.? It must be the global warming... er ah, "climate change"
>>>>> R-22 effect.? Was this in Al Gore's movie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine also turtled on its mooring w local cyclones reported. 1
>>>>> power boat was wrecked on the rocks - no other boats in the mooring
>>>>> field were damaged. I think it is just the luck of the draw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was not driven ashore.? She flipped right at the
>>>>> mooring.? All other moored boats very near got nothing. I am
>>>>> looking for a slip for next season.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar
>>>>> Island to do the
>>>>>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat
>>>>> given enough
>>>>>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can
>>>>> recall other
>>>>>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this
talk
>>>>>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats
more
>>>>>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a
lot
> of
>>>>>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>> Chris:
>>>
>>> ? ? ?Yeah, thank the maker for insurance. ?I learned yesterday that my
> mast has suffered some dimples up where the spreaders attach. ?I sent
pics
> to Stan, and he confirmed that these will make the mast weaker, maybe
even
> unsafe. ?So, I suppose I am on the hard for the rest of the season. ?The
> marina crew has the cabin cleaned out pretty well, so the main issue is
the
> mast. ?As I said to Mary Lou: "you've got to have stories to call
yourself a
> sailor." ?ttfn.
>>>
>>> Joe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> Gee Joe,
>>>> ??? Sounds like Whack a Mole and you lost.? I'm glad you have
insurance,
>>>> let us know how things came out.? Sounds like Peter was treated well
by
> his
>>>> insurance.
>>>> Chris G
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> Chris:
>>>>
>>>> I was not driven ashore. ?She flipped right at the mooring. ?All
other
>>>> moored boats very near got nothing. I am looking for a slip for next
> season.
>>>>
>>>> Joe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar Island to
> do
>>>> the
>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat given
> enough
>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can recall
> other
>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot
of
>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:21:38 -0400
>>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> That is beautiful ... brought a tear to my eye....
>>>
>>> I don't know what you do or did for a living, but if not writting, you
> should consider it
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: drfood55 at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:10:37 -0400
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>>>
>>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most
> of
>>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something
about
>>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want
to
> do
>>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew
> in a
>>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was
that
> I
>>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft,
> strategy.
>>>> Elementary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less
satisfied
>>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail
> out
>>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The
Major
>>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a
> little
>>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at
the
>>>> same time. A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the
> boat
>>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit
> and
>>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls
who-i
>>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live,
> hardly
>>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully
designed
>>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed
> by
>>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails
on
>>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by
trailer
> up
>>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t
make
> you
>>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel
that
>>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:27:14 -0400
>>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped. Was the center board up or
> down? I would assume the board down would resist the roll. Anyone that
had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Geankoplis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>
>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
this
> more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)? It
seems
> like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:35:22 -0400
>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <B1EA5513-B25A-4B69-986C-2696F89A1826 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> My board was up on the Carol Lee.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped. Was the center board up or
> down? I would assume the board down would resist the roll. Anyone
that had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Geankoplis
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
> this more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?
It
> seems like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>>
>>>> Chris G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:42:01 -0400
>>> From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <7DC4D502-521B-4F06-84EE-F59DBA3286BD at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Mine was up. Too shallow in an extreme low tide at my mooring.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My board was up on the Carol Lee.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped. Was the center board up or
> down? I would assume the board down would resist the roll. Anyone that
had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Geankoplis
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>
>>>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
> this more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?
It
> seems like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:29:23 -0700
>>> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAMzGxuOVZh1fizVvoGGw_R-mdnSMmLURCr-dK8Dpbx3judUpoQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> Lynn:
>>>
>>> Congratulations. Two things:
>>>
>>> 1. I saw Sintra in 199 or 2000 at New Bedford, Mass. being hoisted out
> for
>>> refit. She was beautiful!
>>> 2. Inspect the trailer thoroughly before you have your boat hauled to
her
>>> new home..
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Shawn Boles
>>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Lynn Hoffman <drfood55 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most
> of
>>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something about
>>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want
to
> do
>>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew
> in a
>>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was
that
> I
>>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft,
> strategy.
>>>> Elementary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less
satisfied
>>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail
> out
>>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The
Major
>>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a
> little
>>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at
the
>>>> same time. A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the
> boat
>>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit
> and
>>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls
who-i
>>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live,
> hardly
>>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully
designed
>>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed
> by
>>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails
on
>>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by
trailer
> up
>>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t
make
> you
>>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel
that
>>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot_ (http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
archives
> go
>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: QR code]
>>>>
>>>> http://goo.gl/pYqg9.qr
>>>> Hallelujah! The Short Course in Beer is out in a second, revised
> edition.
>>>> To take a look, go to:
>>>>
>>>>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Short-Course-Beer-Introduction-Civilized/dp/1616086335
> /ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>>>>
>>>> ?Had enough of gun violence? Read the story of a woman who does
> something
>>>> about it .
>>>> *Paula Sherman and the National Rifle Association *
>>>>
>>>> get your e-copy for $4.99 at
>>>> http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23266
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:08:19 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Major Jones
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q08H1j0032tNS5M0508HBW at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> What an absolute great comment on life and the Rhodes. Thanks!
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lynn Hoffman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:11 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>>
>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>>
>>>
>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most
of
>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something about
>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want
to
> do
>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>>
>>>
>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew
in
> a
>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was
that
> I
>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft,
strategy.
>>> Elementary.
>>>
>>>
>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less
satisfied
>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail
out
>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The
Major
>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a
little
>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at
the
>>> same time. A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the
boat
>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit
and
>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls
who-i
>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live,
hardly
>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>>
>>> ??
>>>
>>>
>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully
designed
>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed
by
>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>>
>>>
>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails
on
>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by
trailer
> up
>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t make
> you
>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel that
>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>>
>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>>
>>>
>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot_ (http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: QR code]
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/pYqg9.qr
>>> Hallelujah! The Short Course in Beer is out in a second, revised
edition.
>>> To take a look, go to:
>>>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Short-Course-Beer-Introduction-Civilized/dp/1616086335
>>> /ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>>>
>>> ?Had enough of gun violence? Read the story of a woman who does
something
>>> about it .
>>> *Paula Sherman and the National Rifle Association *
>>>
>>> get your e-copy for $4.99 at
>>> http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23266
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
go
> to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:12:43 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q0Ch1j00S2tNS5M050ChAH at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Yup can't accept a questionable mast. Might get $3.00 per pound for
> scrap,
>>> arrgh shipwreck salvage, love it. Better charge insurance for new
wiring
>>> and cushions they are really hard to get the bait tank smell out after
> that
>>> kind of immersion. Good Luck!
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:09 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>
>>> Chris:
>>>
>>> ? ? ?Yeah, thank the maker for insurance. ?I learned yesterday that my
> mast
>>> has suffered some dimples up where the spreaders attach. ?I sent pics
to
>>> Stan, and he confirmed that these will make the mast weaker, maybe even
>>> unsafe. ?So, I suppose I am on the hard for the rest of the season.
?The
>>> marina crew has the cabin cleaned out pretty well, so the main issue is
> the
>>> mast. ?As I said to Mary Lou: "you've got to have stories to call
> yourself a
>>> sailor." ?ttfn.
>>>
>>> Joe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> Gee Joe,
>>>> ??? Sounds like Whack a Mole and you lost.? I'm glad you have
insurance,
>>>> let us know how things came out.? Sounds like Peter was treated well
by
> his
>>>> insurance.
>>>> Chris G
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>
>>>> Chris:
>>>>
>>>> I was not driven ashore. ?She flipped right at the mooring. ?All
other
>>>> moored boats very near got nothing. I am looking for a slip for next
>>> season.
>>>>
>>>> Joe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar Island to
> do
>>>> the
>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat given
> enough
>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can recall
> other
>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot
of
>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
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> go
>>>> to
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>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
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> go
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>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
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> go
>>> to
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:31 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q0DV1j00H2tNS5M050DVv5 at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Mine was centerboard up as I recall.
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:27 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>
>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped. Was the center board up or
> down?
>>> I would assume the board down would resist the roll. Anyone that had
>>> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Geankoplis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>
>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
this
>>> more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)? It
> seems
>>> like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
go
> to
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>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:07:03 -0700
>>> From: Patrick Fletcher <patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light housing replacement
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CADiS6hxX00S20KS4J2AqSHuiHFmJ-K-udumwANtsz+bv+Vv9Xw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Our trip to Canada's Desolation Sound last week was marvelous, but our
>>> retrieval had a few setbacks... After a delay (caused by transmission
>>> trouble on the towing vehicle), we found ourselves pulling up our R22
in
>>> the dark, under the single sodium light of Okeover Marina. We overcame
>>> severe sidewinds and currents to get the Beagle III happily back onto
her
>>> trailer. I pulled her out of the water triumphantly to make ready to
step
>>> the mast for her 10 hour drive home, and then pulled her right into the
>>> many branches of an interposing tree.
>>>
>>> The mast and upper rigging were well entrenched in the branches- the
>>> trailer was on a slope that listed her to starboard, so the port upper
>>> shroud was so taut that it managed to carve a notch out of a branch and
>>> stick there. Backing her didn't do the trick- there were more branches
to
>>> encounter in that direction. We had a half-size maglite and a
collapsible
> 9
>>> foot boathook, which came in handy for investigating and clearing the
>>> initial blockage (add those to your kit!)... After some tired and
> worn-out
>>> thinking, I came to the realization that I'd have to step the mast and
> pull
>>> the rig forward a foot at a time, and so to slip her out of the tree.
> Good
>>> thing we had the winch and mast cradle... This is what worked.
>>>
>>> So, after we got out of there, the only damage was, the housing for the
>>> anchor light, a sharp bend on the antenna, and our wind indicator
which I
>>> would describe as "crumpled up, also smashed". I was pretty sure that
the
>>> port upper shroud would fail and dump the mast over the side, but
>>> thankfully, this did not happen. Good engineering there.
>>>
>>> So, questions:
>>>
>>> --Can I order a new housing for the anchor light, or should I replace
the
>>> whole thing?
>>> --There's a big patch of pitch on my jib after I dragged it through
some
>>> trees- any cleaning advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Pat, co-captain of the Beagle III
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
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>>>
>>> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2960, Issue 1
>>> **********************************************
>>>
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