[Rhodes22-list] FW: Miami Report

Sun Feb 19 21:32:16 EST 2012

Bob,

Did you happen to see a Seaward 32rk when you were there? Those look very
roomy and are still trailer able. 

John S 

Bob Keller wrote:
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> All,
> The Miami Boat Show was a great time.  Long drive though - 8 hrs down and
> 7 hrs back.  Went primarily to look at the Seaward 26RK to see one in
> person.  It is a very impressive boat - see some pictures attached that I
> took.  I was trying to see if that would be a good step up to a boat that
> would still be trailerable but one that my wife and I could spend more
> time on - maybe a month or two at a time.  The retractable keel design
> looks very sturdy and I expect that it would be very seaworthy, more
> ocean-going and would point very well.  My conclusion after seeing the
> boat and learning almost everything there is to know about it (without
> sailing it of course) is that I am not going to go in that direction. 
> Here are my opinions that led me to this conclusion:
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> It is not a major step up from the R-22 in terms of liveability.  No
> standing headroom, galley is mediocre at best, minimal storage space in
> the galley, real lack of storage in terms of keeping clothes on board for
> extended stays (no hanging locker etc).  Overall, the salon felt very
> cramped.  The V berth is very nice and roomy and having a shower in the
> head and cockpit with h/c water is real nice.  Why is it cramped?  Because
> it's trailerable and has 8.5 ft beam.  The ease of trailering is claimed
> to be excellent, but my opinion is that it is 50% heavier than the R-22
> (6,000 lb vs. 4,000 lb) and so my opinion is that it would be 50% more
> complicated.  Just my opinion but even the sales rep said you might want
> to trailer it at the beginning and end of the season.  After having
> trailered the R-22 thousands of miles, I think the Seaward would be more
> complicated and more difficult.  Just my opinion, not necessarily fact.The
> cost is very high.  The boat show model pictured is !
>  $80,000 and I know that after I finish outfitting it so that it is
> equivalent to my Rhodes I would be at or over 90K.  I think I could get a
> 31-32 foot Beneteau, Catalina or something similar that is < 10 yrs old,
> fully outfitted for less than that - probably $50-70K. 
> Compac was there but did not have the new pilothouse.  Sounds like they
> cannot keep up with the demand but maybe they only build one per month, I
> don't know.  Overall, new sailboat prices have become outrageously
> expensive, unlike new powerboats where there are still some reasonable
> deals.  The new Catalina 315 was there and it is very nice and roomy.  The
> price?  $175,000!!  Ridiculous for a 31 foot boat.  Smallest Beneteau at
> the show was 37 feet!
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> Most impressive boat (monohull) was easily the new Seaward 46.  Hull #1
> was there and it is amazing - has a pilothouse and leather captains chair
> that you can see all around and still navigate and operate the a/p.  The
> show model was only $500,000.
>  
> Went to the Lats & Atts party on Saturday night for free beer and pizza
> and spoke to Bob Bitchin briefly.  It was a great time.  
>  
> Speaking of keeping my wallet in my pocket, when I left the party Sat
> night I was halfway out and realized my wallet was not in my back pocket. 
> Went back and it was still sitting on my chair where it had fallen out. 
> Lucky me..
>  
> That's my unsolicited review of the boat show.
> BK
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:53 -0800
> From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Miami
> To: r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com
> 
> Hey Bob:  Kathy and I usually make it to the Miami show as you may recall;
> however, too much going on this year.  Used to love it when it was held on
> Watson Island - now the monkey jungle.
> 
> Have a great time.  Keep you hand over your wallet.  {:>)
> Bob and Kathy on the R22 "NoKaOi 3"
>         From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>  To:
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>  Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Miami
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> On my way to the Miami Boat Show.  Will be there on Saturday.  I doubt
> there will be a Rhodes or a Stan sighting?BK
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