[Rhodes22-list] FW: Miami Report

Bob Keller r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 20 09:30:20 EST 2012 

John,Yes, we looked at that boat as well and it is very nice.  I don't really consider that to be a trailerable boat...BK
 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:32:16 -0800
> From: jsbudda at verizon.net
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW:  Miami Report
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Did you happen to see a Seaward 32rk when you were there? Those look very
> roomy and are still trailer able. 
> 
> John S 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Keller wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > All,
> > The Miami Boat Show was a great time.  Long drive though - 8 hrs down and
> > 7 hrs back.  Went primarily to look at the Seaward 26RK to see one in
> > person.  It is a very impressive boat - see some pictures attached that I
> > took.  I was trying to see if that would be a good step up to a boat that
> > would still be trailerable but one that my wife and I could spend more
> > time on - maybe a month or two at a time.  The retractable keel design
> > looks very sturdy and I expect that it would be very seaworthy, more
> > ocean-going and would point very well.  My conclusion after seeing the
> > boat and learning almost everything there is to know about it (without
> > sailing it of course) is that I am not going to go in that direction. 
> > Here are my opinions that led me to this conclusion:
> > 
> > It is not a major step up from the R-22 in terms of liveability.  No
> > standing headroom, galley is mediocre at best, minimal storage space in
> > the galley, real lack of storage in terms of keeping clothes on board for
> > extended stays (no hanging locker etc).  Overall, the salon felt very
> > cramped.  The V berth is very nice and roomy and having a shower in the
> > head and cockpit with h/c water is real nice.  Why is it cramped?  Because
> > it's trailerable and has 8.5 ft beam.  The ease of trailering is claimed
> > to be excellent, but my opinion is that it is 50% heavier than the R-22
> > (6,000 lb vs. 4,000 lb) and so my opinion is that it would be 50% more
> > complicated.  Just my opinion but even the sales rep said you might want
> > to trailer it at the beginning and end of the season.  After having
> > trailered the R-22 thousands of miles, I think the Seaward would be more
> > complicated and more difficult.  Just my opinion, not necessarily fact.The
> > cost is very high.  The boat show model pictured is !
> >  $80,000 and I know that after I finish outfitting it so that it is
> > equivalent to my Rhodes I would be at or over 90K.  I think I could get a
> > 31-32 foot Beneteau, Catalina or something similar that is < 10 yrs old,
> > fully outfitted for less than that - probably $50-70K. 
> > Compac was there but did not have the new pilothouse.  Sounds like they
> > cannot keep up with the demand but maybe they only build one per month, I
> > don't know.  Overall, new sailboat prices have become outrageously
> > expensive, unlike new powerboats where there are still some reasonable
> > deals.  The new Catalina 315 was there and it is very nice and roomy.  The
> > price?  $175,000!!  Ridiculous for a 31 foot boat.  Smallest Beneteau at
> > the show was 37 feet!
> >  
> > Most impressive boat (monohull) was easily the new Seaward 46.  Hull #1
> > was there and it is amazing - has a pilothouse and leather captains chair
> > that you can see all around and still navigate and operate the a/p.  The
> > show model was only $500,000.
> >  
> > Went to the Lats & Atts party on Saturday night for free beer and pizza
> > and spoke to Bob Bitchin briefly.  It was a great time.  
> >  
> > Speaking of keeping my wallet in my pocket, when I left the party Sat
> > night I was halfway out and realized my wallet was not in my back pocket. 
> > Went back and it was still sitting on my chair where it had fallen out. 
> > Lucky me..
> >  
> > That's my unsolicited review of the boat show.
> > BK
> > 
> >  
> > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:53 -0800
> > From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Miami
> > To: r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com
> > 
> > Hey Bob:  Kathy and I usually make it to the Miami show as you may recall;
> > however, too much going on this year.  Used to love it when it was held on
> > Watson Island - now the monkey jungle.
> > 
> > Have a great time.  Keep you hand over your wallet.  {:>)
> > Bob and Kathy on the R22 "NoKaOi 3"
> >         From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
> >  To:
> >  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
> >  Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:02 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Miami
> >    
> > 
> > 
> > On my way to the Miami Boat Show.  Will be there on Saturday.  I doubt
> > there will be a Rhodes or a Stan sighting?BK
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