[Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
Goodness
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Sun Jul 15 20:46:57 EDT 2012
I would get a switch, sometimes the float jams with foriegn material.
On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, I get it: BROWN is the positive lead. So, w/o a switch, do I tie the red into the brown or just snip and tape it?
>
> Thanks y'all.
>
> Joe
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Bilge pumps use a standard wiring code: Black=negative, Brown=12V positive.
>> The red wire is probably either for an indicator or an override. The
>> attached diagram shows what is typically inside the pump. The lead labeled
>> +12V (switched) is most likely your red lead. The switched lead is
>> generally attached to a lighted switch which illuminates when the float
>> switch turns on and can be used to supply power (+12V) directly to the pump
>> to operate it when the water level is too low for the float switch. To test
>> the pump float switch just put it in a pail of water.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v <-no name -> ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:45 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>
>> Chris:
>>
>> I suppose the centerboard hose is a possibility. But there were (I've
>> upped my estimate) over thirty gallons of water I pumped overboard. The
>> pennant hose may have accounted for some of that, but not all. I am
>> convinced that the water found a variety of sources of ingress. However it
>> got in, the ultimate conclusion remains unchanged... I have to deal with the
>> situation, now and in the future.
>>
>> By the way (anyone) I am trying to wire a small bilge pump for use when
>> I am off the boat. I want to plug it into my 12v power point with a
>> cigarette lighter plug, but I can't get it to power up. There are three
>> leads off the pump: a red, a black and brown, and there are no wiring
>> instructions in the package. I assume that the brown is for an external
>> switch, which I won't need, since the pump has a self contained float switch
>> . But the pump seems to want something besides red and black to make it
>> perform. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>
>> Joe Camp
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>
>>> You know,
>>> Has anyone mention the possibility of the centerboard pennant hose?
>>> What was that phrase? "Loose clamps Sink Ships"
>>> Chris G
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:45 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Chris that polysulfide is best for below water-line, thru
>>> hull fittings. I have more than I can count on my boat and changed
>>> from 5200 to polysulfide for the simple reason that PS flexes and 5200
>>> doesn't. When trailering, launching and retrieving the boat it helps
>>> to have something that flexes and holds. I had some leaks and went
>>> with PS about 8 yrs ago and it has been flawless. As for the leak, I am
>>> betting on the centerboard trunk.BK
>>>> From: napoli68 at charter.net
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>>
>>>> Silicon Sealant, marine or otherwise, should not be used below the
>>>> water line. The best thing to use if you want a polyurethane sealant
>>>> is one called "thru hull sealant" or something like that, 3M may make
>>>> it. I use a polysulfide sealant like "Lifecaulk" and I can say it
>>>> last at least 30
>>> years
>>>> personal experience.
>>>> Chris G
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Goodness
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:50 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>>
>>>> My cockpit drain fitting was bedded in goopy silicone adhesive. Its
>>>> ugly and excessive. This isnt standard is it? I should replace with
>>>> 3m 5200 shouldnt i?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:42 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
>>>> <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At one time I had water leaking in at the thru hull fitting for the
>>>> cockpit
>>>>> drain on my '81. The level in the laz never rose more than an inch
>>>>> or
>>> two
>>>>> when on the hook. When sailing, quite a bit more water was found
>>>>> in the
>>>> laz
>>>>> at the end of the day. I found that the gasket around the fitting
>>>>> had disintegrated over time (30 years).
>>>>>
>>>>> I snugged the nut to the bottom of the laz BY HAND, not wanting to
>>>> fracture
>>>>> the fiberglass around the fitting nor the 30 year-old nylon
>>>>> fitting. I
>>>> was
>>>>> able to complete the season without a tremendous amount of water in
>>>>> the
>>>> laz.
>>>>> During the winter layup I replaced the thru hull fitting, the hose
>>>>> and
>>> the
>>>>> two clamps, rebedding both fittings. Never had another problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> s/v <- no name -> ('91)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:21 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>> There will be some water visible in the cockpit drain when viewed
>>>>> from
>>> the
>>>>> cockpit. I'm with Mary Lou in that if you are getting water into
>>>>> the
>>> boat
>>>>> with no rain, wind, or heeling; there are two likely places. The
>>>>> centerboard housing, which is unlikely if you haven't taken it
>>>>> apart
>>>> lately,
>>>>> and the cockpit drain. Take a real close look at the hose and thru
>>>>> hull
>>>> of
>>>>> the cockpit drain hose which you get to through the laz. The hose
>>>>> looks like radiation hose with a couple of hose clamps on it. A
>>>>> loose clamp
>>> or
>>>> a
>>>>> worn hose may be an issue. Good luck! - rob
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:10 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is some standing water I noticed in the deck cockpit drain.
>>>> I'd
>>>>> never noticed any there before, though maybe I missed it previously.
>>> Sink
>>>>> drain looks fine, but could stand a close inspection. Everyone has
>>>>> given
>>>> me
>>>>> excellent information with which to investigate a variety of
>>>>> causes. I suppose, now is the time to make up a checklist and
>>>>> begin to tic off possible sources. Tally ho! Thanks to all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm. No rain, not much wind or did you have rain up there? If not....
>>>>>> What do you have for through hulls? Check the aft cockpit drain.
>>>>>> The tube for it goes through the lazarette. Check your sink drain
>>>>>> fittings though that is above water and only ships water on a heel
>>>>>> (water will get into the boat if the drain hose is loose and the
>>>>>> boat heels). The only other culprit that I can think of is the
>>>>>> centerboard housing but if you haven't had it apart recently and
>>>>>> it didn't leak before, it's unlikely to leak now. I suppose it's
>>>>>> possible that water is still running into the low spot from when you
>> got swamped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck in tracking it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 09:07 PM 7/12/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Gang:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may remember, in the last episode, Joe had faced the
>>>>>>> heartbreak of a wet boat. In this installment, he reports that,
>>>>>>> despite pumping and sponging water, more seems to replace what has
>>>>>>> been removed from the bilge. It's not a flood, but it keeps
>>>>>>> showing up when he goes to the boat or sails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What culprit has gained control of circumstances? Is the
>>>>>>> boat afflicted by an unseen crack in the hull? Is there some
>>>>>>> hiding place
>>>
>>>>>>> from which water seeps? How long will our hero have to battle
>>>>>>> the errant water? Is he just a rube being cruelly played by the
>>>>>>> forces of nature? The only way to find out is to discern the
>>>>>>> answer yourselves and help the hapless Joe. So, break out your
>>>>>>> decoder rings and solve this problem. Then tell Joe (in a
>>>>>>> non-coded
>>>>>>> message) what the hell is up with this. Until next time, Rhodes
>>>> Rangers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Camp
>>>>>>> s/v John Dawson
>>>>>>> Earleville, MD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. Who is the red hulled Rhodes on a mooring at Bohemia Bay
>> Marina?
>>>
>>>>>>> I see you there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> j
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