[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 14:50:58 EST 2013


You probably hit a drunken whale.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me posting the
> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved. Pushed
> the
> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our second
> bottle  of rum.....and not the small ones.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>
> Rummy,
>
> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid  over a
> moving/sailing
> R22?
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at  2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Art,
> > I know  what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid RumRunner
> > over  that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two
> batteries
> >  and
> > water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on  board
> so
> > I  have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had  the rail buried
> most
> > of the  day and it was rounding up  frequently just prior to getting
> knocked
> > down by a  180 degree  wind change. It still is one of my best days
> sailing.
> > I will try to  get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I  don't
> >  believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps
> is
> > determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
> >
> >  Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> > cover-man at comcast.net writes:
> >
> >  Rummy,
> >
> > Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster!  And  the sage wisdom of
> Captain
> > Keller.   Have you ever noticed  a  change of waterline length of the R22
> > when heeling or with  additional ballast  forrward,  such a key factor in
> >  the
> > hull speed?
> >
> > Are Bob and Sheila  getting out  on blue water yet?  I want to get the
> name
> > of his new  Yankee  Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
> >
> > I  hope all is well with  you and your boat.  Like, plenty of water  this
> > year...
> >
> > R,
> >
> >  Art
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a nice day   !
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Date: 11/07/2013  11:24 AM   (GMT-05:00)
> > To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130%  genoa
> >
> > Art,
> > Hull  speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of  ballast  (crew),
> > enough wind and a lot of rum.
> > I spent last   weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob Keller
> >  (Former  Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310.
> Had
> > enough  wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than  the rated
> hull
> > speed
> > for his  boat.
> >
> >  Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated  11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> > cover-man at comcast.net   writes:
> >
> > Think of  it, guys - what a terrible shame that  with our  infinite vigor
> > and
> > boundless  brilliance  we are still confined to the  hull speed.  We need
> > some  more  help from our fearless  leader!
> >
> > Well,   back to a glass of Sherry in  the  BR...
> >
> > Rummy,  where are  you?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >  Art
> >
> >
> > Have a nice day  !
> >
> > --------  Original  message --------
> > From: Charles Nieman    <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> > Date: 11/05/2013  3:14   PM   (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Rhodes List   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]   Inquiry on 130% genoa
> >
> > Ric, et  al;
> > For the UPS, I  have a  seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
> >  choose
> > to hoist (ie  flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is  just bangs the
> > mast like  everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't  want to be the only
> > quiet
> > boat on a breezy day :-)) I have  found that while the UPS is self
> furling,
> > it
> > has a tendancy to  try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out or
> > other   times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to
> > deploy  (if
> > it is  anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since  I  know I won't
> be
> > using  it)
> >
> > On the  question about the furler, I  am presuming you are asking  about
> the
> > 130; and I cannot answer. I  have never had the sail off the  furling
> tube
> > (I
> > have on the main,  and that sail  has the groove in the furling tube
>  that
> > one inserts  the  sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while under
> > full
> >  sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see    it.
> >
> > > From: ric at steelbone.com
> > > To:    rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013  13:00:01   -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry  on 130% genoa
> > >
> > > HI Charles
> > > Thanks for  your input
> > > Personally I think  a  130 and the UPS are a  great combination for the
> > >  Rhodes  22.
> > >  Questions.
> > > How do you hoist you UPS?
> > >  Do you  have a  dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
> >  >  Do you have a modern  roller furler with a luff  groove?
> > > Ric  Stott
> > > s/v Dadventure -   '84
> > > Hampton Bays, NY
> > >
> > > On Nov 5, 2013, at  12:21 PM,  Charles Nieman wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Art
> > > > I had a 175 on my  old R22, I thought it  was  a great sail and
> > > > probably used  too much of it   when I should have reefed. I got a
> new
> > > > to  me R22   that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to
> a
> >
> >  > > 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make   that
> move,
> > > > plus the new boat also has a UPS for   really light  air (the
> observed
> > > > problem with the  175  was when you really  need that much sail, it
> is
> > >  > too  heavy to work). I am so  pleased with the 130 and UPS, I  will
> not
> >
> > > > be going back to  the 175 when these  wear out (I also doubt  the UPS
> > > > will  wear out,  since I only use it in very  light air, which
> usually
> > >   > means too hot to be out  there, here in Texas).
> > >  >
> > > >  Now I am on a Texas  lake, and If you are  thinking in regards to
> your
> >
> > > >  Florida location,  it may be totally different.
> > >  >
> > > >   One man's opinion
> > > >
> > > > Charles
> >  >  > 98 R  22
> > > > s/v Daydream
> > >  >
> > > >> Date:  Tue, 5  Nov 2013 16:44:06  +0000
> > > >> From:   cover-man at comcast.net
> >  > >> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >  >>  Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Inquiry on 130% genoa
> > >   >>
> > > >> Guys,
> > >  >>
> > >  >> I am  contemplating getting the 130, but  curious to get  any
> feedback
> > >  >> on your performance  experience.  Thx.
> > > >>
> > >  >> Art
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