[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
Theodore Boender
boendert at me.com
Fri Nov 8 14:57:20 EST 2013
How much wind are we talking here? 25kts?
On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> You probably hit a drunken whale.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me posting the
>> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved. Pushed
>> the
>> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our second
>> bottle of rum.....and not the small ones.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid over a
>> moving/sailing
>> R22?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Art,
>>> I know what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid RumRunner
>>> over that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two
>> batteries
>>> and
>>> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on board
>> so
>>> I have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had the rail buried
>> most
>>> of the day and it was rounding up frequently just prior to getting
>> knocked
>>> down by a 180 degree wind change. It still is one of my best days
>> sailing.
>>> I will try to get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I don't
>>> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps
>> is
>>> determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>
>>> Rummy,
>>>
>>> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster! And the sage wisdom of
>> Captain
>>> Keller. Have you ever noticed a change of waterline length of the R22
>>> when heeling or with additional ballast forrward, such a key factor in
>>> the
>>> hull speed?
>>>
>>> Are Bob and Sheila getting out on blue water yet? I want to get the
>> name
>>> of his new Yankee Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
>>>
>>> I hope all is well with you and your boat. Like, plenty of water this
>>> year...
>>>
>>> R,
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a nice day !
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> Date: 11/07/2013 11:24 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>
>>> Art,
>>> Hull speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of ballast (crew),
>>> enough wind and a lot of rum.
>>> I spent last weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob Keller
>>> (Former Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310.
>> Had
>>> enough wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than the rated
>> hull
>>> speed
>>> for his boat.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>
>>> Think of it, guys - what a terrible shame that with our infinite vigor
>>> and
>>> boundless brilliance we are still confined to the hull speed. We need
>>> some more help from our fearless leader!
>>>
>>> Well, back to a glass of Sherry in the BR...
>>>
>>> Rummy, where are you?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a nice day !
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>> Date: 11/05/2013 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>
>>> Ric, et al;
>>> For the UPS, I have a seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
>>> choose
>>> to hoist (ie flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just bangs the
>>> mast like everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to be the only
>>> quiet
>>> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while the UPS is self
>> furling,
>>> it
>>> has a tendancy to try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out or
>>> other times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to
>>> deploy (if
>>> it is anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since I know I won't
>> be
>>> using it)
>>>
>>> On the question about the furler, I am presuming you are asking about
>> the
>>> 130; and I cannot answer. I have never had the sail off the furling
>> tube
>>> (I
>>> have on the main, and that sail has the groove in the furling tube
>> that
>>> one inserts the sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while under
>>> full
>>> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see it.
>>>
>>>> From: ric at steelbone.com
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>
>>>> HI Charles
>>>> Thanks for your input
>>>> Personally I think a 130 and the UPS are a great combination for the
>>>> Rhodes 22.
>>>> Questions.
>>>> How do you hoist you UPS?
>>>> Do you have a dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
>>>> Do you have a modern roller furler with a luff groove?
>>>> Ric Stott
>>>> s/v Dadventure - '84
>>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Charles Nieman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Art
>>>>> I had a 175 on my old R22, I thought it was a great sail and
>>>>> probably used too much of it when I should have reefed. I got a
>> new
>>>>> to me R22 that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to
>> a
>>>
>>>>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make that
>> move,
>>>>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for really light air (the
>> observed
>>>>> problem with the 175 was when you really need that much sail, it
>> is
>>>>> too heavy to work). I am so pleased with the 130 and UPS, I will
>> not
>>>
>>>>> be going back to the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt the UPS
>>>>> will wear out, since I only use it in very light air, which
>> usually
>>>>> means too hot to be out there, here in Texas).
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I am on a Texas lake, and If you are thinking in regards to
>> your
>>>
>>>>> Florida location, it may be totally different.
>>>>>
>>>>> One man's opinion
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>> 98 R 22
>>>>> s/v Daydream
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000
>>>>>> From: cover-man at comcast.net
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am contemplating getting the 130, but curious to get any
>> feedback
>>>>>> on your performance experience. Thx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art
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