[Rhodes22-list] Self Tending JIb

[Rick]

Charles,

When single handing in heavy air, I usually bring the working jib sheet to
the windward winch and cleat there.  I just don't like leaning downhill.

Rick


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Charles Nieman
<blue66corvette at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I tried this with furling my 130....it worked great .... I rigged my the
> opposite hand (started at the starboard shroud and ran through the port
> side, because I had a cam cleat there that would service; and maybe I get a
> little dyslexic)..... very happy with the results and may use this a great
> deal more, except of course in very light winds .....
>
> Charles
> 98 R 22
> s/v Day Dream
> Arlington, TX
>
> > From: jac2 at wavecable.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 05:52:54 -0700
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Self Tending JIb
> >
> > Some time ago, I posted a request to those on list for any information
> > anyone had on self tending jib options for my refurbished 92 Rhodes. I
> asked
> > about sail dimensions, rigging options etc. What I got in response were
> > questions and a note from Stan that he would be willing to revisit his
> > design on the problem. I just went ahead and started with the only known
> > requirement...... A smaller jib sail.
> >
> > I wanted to solve several problems.
> >
> > 1. The 175% jib is too large for easy single handed operation unless it
> > stays reefed.
> > 2. The 175% unbalances the boat severely in moderate winds above 12
> knots or
> > so.
> > 3. The 175% is too small to be useful when reefed far enough for a self
> > tending rig.
> >
> > I had seen many comments on the list about concerns in winds above 15
> knots
> > or so. In my experience with other boats, things don't get fun until you
> get
> > above 15 knots. This has been our first summer on the boat. It was clear
> > immediately the 175% had to go unless you wanted to race and had an
> > experienced first mate willing to constantly tend it.
> >
> > Reefed however, the 175% operated wonderfully even in light winds. It was
> > clear a smaller sail would be prudent and a self tending rig that could
> be
> > easily used or not as desired would be ideal but, I had no idea what
> kind of
> > rigging would be required. All I knew is that the jib sail needed to be
> able
> > to swing free when fully deployed. I measured the boat for a 100% sail,
> sent
> > the dimensions to Doyle and had one made.
> >
> > The 100% worked great with normal rigging. Winds above 20 knots were no
> > problem even under full sail. Furling was easy even under a full wind
> load
> > and swapping sheets in tacking was quick and simple.
> >
> > Options for the self tending rig included everything from a full
> duplication
> > of the main rigging (boom, topping lift, traveler and sheet) to just a
> > single line run through the clew and tied between two points somewhere on
> > the bow. The single line has worked very, very well  and allowed
> sustained
> > speeds above 5 knots in 10 to 15 knot winds. It also handled higher winds
> > with no trouble.
> >
> > Here is how it is rigged.
> >
> > The clew of the 100% sail just passes the forward shrouds under normal
> > rigging with port and starboard sheets. A slight furling can stop it at
> the
> > forward shroud and still leave about 90% of the sail deployed. This is
> the
> > position it is in for self tending. The normal sheets stay connected and
> > just loose enough to allow it to swing freely to each side. A single
> block
> > is attached to the jib clew and another single block is attached to the
> base
> > of the starboard forward shroud. The self tending line is secured first
> to
> > the base of the port forward shroud, routed through the block in the sail
> > clew, then through the block at the base of the starboard forward shroud
> and
> > finally through the starboard inboard eye and jam cleat to the the left
> of
> > the jib furling line. This allows the single line to act as outhaul,
> > traveler and sheet and leads all lines to the cockpit. Sail shape can be
> set
> > easily by adjusting the furling line and the self tending line.
> >
> > Switching between use of the normal sheets and the self tending sheet is
> > quick and easy. The boat sails under perfect balance on either rigging
> > because of the smaller jib. I was able to let the rudder loose and keep
> the
> > boat on course by just adjusting the main sheet under both rigging
> > conditions. Down wind runs were easy and reaches were even better than
> > normal since the jib sail could be pulled closer to the center line.
> Speeds
> > above 5 knots were easily reached and maintained. I doubt, I will be
> going
> > back to the 175% under any conditions.
> >
> > I have no intent to post pictures on the list. If anyone would like me to
> > take some and send them, please email me directly. I will be happy to
> supply
> > the sail dimensions and pictures of the rig.
> >
> > One other note. I removed the winch.  I considered it dangerous since it
> had
> > no automatic kill switch at its top limit and could pull its self out of
> the
> > transom if something happened to the remote. It was a 3,000 winch. In its
> > place, I set up 4 double blocks to serve as a hoist. Two were attached to
> > the upper winch strap bar and two to the lower. I installed a jam cleat
> on
> > the platform over the strap slot in the transom to secure the line. It
> works
> > great and allows me to lift and lower the engine ( 6 HP 4 Stroke Tohatsu)
> > with one hand. I used the now vacant strap slot to route the wires for my
> > Humminbird 858 DI Combo system.
> >
> > Take care and good sailing........
> >
> > Jay
> > Port Angeles, WA
> >
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