[Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems

Sun Oct 25 15:22:30 EDT 2015

Ted:
I am just jealous. Aside from the short season here I have had my boat on
the hard for 4 years now while I restore it. Boats that float and are
located in warm climates is something I prefer not to dwell on.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada

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Graham, agree with you...lots of conversations on the list concerning
rigging.

I'll make and effort to ensure the mast looks straight using your
recommendations. 

Sorry about rubbing it in on the sailing. It's just that this is our best
time of the year and I don't miss New England even in the least bit. 

Cheers,
Ted

> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Ted:
> 
> I don't have the IMF mast so can't speak from experience. To sight 
> whether the mast is vertical you have to get you eye right up against 
> a straight edge. I use the sail track but there must be some other 
> straight edge on the IMF that you can use. In any respect I would 
> follow the manual rather than my advice if there is any inconsistency. 
> The IMF is, as I understand it, a much more rigid spar that has little 
> potential to bend. Tuning it will be different.
> 
> Would you please take pity on those of us who have already experience 
> snow and stop mentioning how nice the sailing is where you are. There 
> must be some nautical etiquette that prohibits that.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems
> 
> She is an IMF rig. I suspect the rigging is to blame as well. I can't 
> really tell if the mast is "straight" by looking up. May be its just 
> my bad depth perception.
> 
> I'll start over and retention the stays in the correct order. I also 
> set the backstay tension hand tight but not too tight--so to speak.
> 
> I usually tension them hand tight--no tools. They tend to go slightly 
> slack on the leeward side.
> 
> 
> Another epic day sailing today. Low 80s and a perfect warm 11-14 mph 
> breeze out of the east.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> S/V AIRPOWER
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ted:
>> 
>> I think all sailboats behave differently on port and starboard tacks.
>> Certainly mine does. Uneven weight distribution in the boat, which is
> always
>> the case,  will influence the amount of heel and that alone has an
impact.
>> Variations in the shape of the hull, slight misalignment of the
> centreboard
>> etc. etc. etc. are all possible reasons. 
>> 
>> If the difference really bothers you, start with the rig and in 
>> particular make sure the mast is actually vertical by making sure 
>> that both top stays are the same length when under tension. Do that 
>> before putting tension on the lower stays which should be tightened 
>> only as needed to straighten the mast once it is perfectly vertical. 
>> You can tell when the mast is straight by looking up the sail track. 
>> You might find that you have to go back and forth a few times in an 
>> iterative process to get the mast both vertical
> and
>> straight - side to side. You can attach the tip of a measuring tape 
>> or non-stretch line to a halyard and take it to the top of the mast 
>> and then measure to the chain plate on both sides. It is quite 
>> possible to have the correct tension on both sides while one stay, 
>> when tensioned, is longer
> than
>> the other. If you have a standard rig there should only be a very 
>> slight rake. Too much or too little will result in either weather or 
>> lee helm. If that is the case now, I would suspect that some aspect 
>> of the rig tuning
> is
>> the villain and all of the other suggestions given by others are good
> places
>> to look.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: October 24, 2015 2:28 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems
>> 
>> Ted,
>> 
>> Is your swim ladder down?  Are fenders dragging from starboard?
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 12:55 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey guys, why would I have different speeds on different tacks? My 
>>> boat seems to struggle while on a port tack upwind versus a 
>>> starboard tack upwind.
>>> 
>>> Rigging issues?
>>> 
>>> What gives?
>>> 
>>> Here's a pic from yesterday's sail.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>> 
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