[Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems

Mon Oct 26 10:36:47 EDT 2015

Graham:  My humble advice would be to get a sailing dinghy.  You will use it later when cruising but you can car-top it anywhere and makes vacation more interesting!  I now have three of them!  Talk about an addiction!

Bob (Palatka)

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:22 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Ted:
> I am just jealous. Aside from the short season here I have had my boat on
> the hard for 4 years now while I restore it. Boats that float and are
> located in warm climates is something I prefer not to dwell on.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: October 25, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems
> 
> Graham, agree with you...lots of conversations on the list concerning
> rigging.
> 
> I'll make and effort to ensure the mast looks straight using your
> recommendations. 
> 
> Sorry about rubbing it in on the sailing. It's just that this is our best
> time of the year and I don't miss New England even in the least bit. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ted:
>> 
>> I don't have the IMF mast so can't speak from experience. To sight 
>> whether the mast is vertical you have to get you eye right up against 
>> a straight edge. I use the sail track but there must be some other 
>> straight edge on the IMF that you can use. In any respect I would 
>> follow the manual rather than my advice if there is any inconsistency. 
>> The IMF is, as I understand it, a much more rigid spar that has little 
>> potential to bend. Tuning it will be different.
>> 
>> Would you please take pity on those of us who have already experience 
>> snow and stop mentioning how nice the sailing is where you are. There 
>> must be some nautical etiquette that prohibits that.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
>> Email List
>> Sent: October 24, 2015 7:37 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems
>> 
>> She is an IMF rig. I suspect the rigging is to blame as well. I can't 
>> really tell if the mast is "straight" by looking up. May be its just 
>> my bad depth perception.
>> 
>> I'll start over and retention the stays in the correct order. I also 
>> set the backstay tension hand tight but not too tight--so to speak.
>> 
>> I usually tension them hand tight--no tools. They tend to go slightly 
>> slack on the leeward side.
>> 
>> 
>> Another epic day sailing today. Low 80s and a perfect warm 11-14 mph 
>> breeze out of the east.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ted:
>>> 
>>> I think all sailboats behave differently on port and starboard tacks.
>>> Certainly mine does. Uneven weight distribution in the boat, which is
>> always
>>> the case,  will influence the amount of heel and that alone has an
> impact.
>>> Variations in the shape of the hull, slight misalignment of the
>> centreboard
>>> etc. etc. etc. are all possible reasons. 
>>> 
>>> If the difference really bothers you, start with the rig and in 
>>> particular make sure the mast is actually vertical by making sure 
>>> that both top stays are the same length when under tension. Do that 
>>> before putting tension on the lower stays which should be tightened 
>>> only as needed to straighten the mast once it is perfectly vertical. 
>>> You can tell when the mast is straight by looking up the sail track. 
>>> You might find that you have to go back and forth a few times in an 
>>> iterative process to get the mast both vertical
>> and
>>> straight - side to side. You can attach the tip of a measuring tape 
>>> or non-stretch line to a halyard and take it to the top of the mast 
>>> and then measure to the chain plate on both sides. It is quite 
>>> possible to have the correct tension on both sides while one stay, 
>>> when tensioned, is longer
>> than
>>> the other. If you have a standard rig there should only be a very 
>>> slight rake. Too much or too little will result in either weather or 
>>> lee helm. If that is the case now, I would suspect that some aspect 
>>> of the rig tuning
>> is
>>> the villain and all of the other suggestions given by others are good
>> places
>>> to look.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 
>>> 22
>> Email
>>> List
>>> Sent: October 24, 2015 2:28 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Port tack problems
>>> 
>>> Ted,
>>> 
>>> Is your swim ladder down?  Are fenders dragging from starboard?
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 12:55 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey guys, why would I have different speeds on different tacks? My 
>>>> boat seems to struggle while on a port tack upwind versus a 
>>>> starboard tack upwind.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigging issues?
>>>> 
>>>> What gives?
>>>> 
>>>> Here's a pic from yesterday's sail.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>>> 
>>>> 
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