[Rhodes22-list] R22 capsize in Force 10

[Richard Beytagh]

If anyone has concerns about the Rhodes 22 being able to withstand extreme
weather conditions have a look the attached. This was a boat I delivered to
Port St Joe a couple of years ago. This area was hit by hurricane Mike
head-on and this was the only boat in the marina that survived intact. I
know it's not the same as being out at sea in a force 10, but it speaks
spades when all others had been washed a way or sunk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOfAtfXoJ44&authuser=0

Go to around 2:30min  to see the lone dark blue R22 still floating...


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:30 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> So I just read the Small Craft Advisor article (Issue #121, p20) article
> and I'm rather annoyed. I'll need to read the article again when I have
> more time but here is a quick and somewhat careful synopsis.
>
> The author writes about sailing his Sailmaster 22 (good boat, Sparkman &
> Stephens design) and getting caught in the same storm that capsized the
> R22. In many ways, it's a good article about what he did in the face of
> the storm and what he should have done better. He gets onto shaky ground
> when he starts talking about why the R22 capsized (he doesn't seem to
> have direct knowledge in spite of talking to the skipper of the R22 and
> is just speculating on how the design may have contributed to the
> capsize) and why his boat didn't. He makes at least one error and a
> couple errors of omission in talking about the design of the R22.
>
> Early on in the article the author quotes me from my chapter in "Sailing
> Small" quoting GB's website about the R22 being "uncapsizeable under
> sail." It's irrelevant as the R22 was motoring at the time as was the
> Sailmaster. Both evidently saw the storm while near the mouth of their
> home creek and both elected to make a run for the dock or at least
> sheltered water. The R22 was capsized. dismasted and "the salvage crew
> couldn't refloat the boat, so a crane was used to lift it onto a small
> barge." The Rhodes evidently had extensive damage to the bow and was
> uninsured.
>
> I'm planning on writing a letter to SCA correcting a couple of
> statements by the author and adding some thoughts of my own having had
> the R22 out in a significant squall as described in Sailing Small. If
> any Long Island Rhodies know more about the incident, I'd love to hear it.
>
> Mary Lou
> ex-R22
> now Rosborough RF-246
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> .
>
>
> On 12/20/2019 11:33 AM, Cary Tolbert wrote:
> > This popped up on my phone. The Rhodes 22 is in good company.
> > Donna Lang on her second solo circumnavigation trip in her Southern Cross
> > 28 , 1982 vintage,
> > got caught in 50 mph winds and was knocked down and dis-masted. This is a
> > Blue Water boat
> > with a Dis./Bal. of 40%. It can happen to anyone. You can't mess with
> > mother nature; well you can but your playing against the house.
> >
> > Cary
> > Whisper '86
> > Radford,VA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:58 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Was the boat sailing or laying to?
> >>
> >> Rick Lange
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 12:07 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Force 10.  That is 55 mph, and up, winds with giant waves.  I guess we
> >>> will have to lower any claims to 50 mph winds.
> >>>
> >>> I have spent most off my sailing days on the Great South Bay.  It is so
> >>> shallow it is impossible to lose anything. And although on the ocean
> >>> side of Long Island, there never was anything close to a force 10 storm
> >>> in my day.  Global warming?
> >>>
> >>> We did list once in the middle of the night when low tide had the
> family
> >>> sleeping stacked up on top of each other.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/19/19 8:49 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> >>>> details?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:53 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Did any of you read the article in the latest issue of Small Craft
> >>> Advisor
> >>>>> about the loss of a R22 in Long Islands Great South Bay? Sobering
> >>> reading!
> >>>>> Have a Happy New Year full of safe sailing adventures.
> >>>>>    Graham in snowy Vermont
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>
>
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