[Rhodes22-list] CB Pennant drain

Sat Aug 22 13:33:33 EDT 2020

Hi Graham,

My project was focused on replacing the hoses connecting the top of the CB
housing to the drain on the bridge deck. I didn't need to replace the CB
pennant, so unfortunately I can't tell you the length. While you have the
covering off, you might just want to look up at the top of that hose. If
there is no clamp on it, it could leak. Or if the clamp is rusty now
would be the time to replace it.

Bear in mind that I struggle with the disease of "might-as-well-itis." My
projects often get drawn out because I tell myself: "Well, since I'm doing
Task A I might as well do Task B since if I wait until Task A is done Task
B will be harder. That type of thinking led to my first "big" boat, a 28'
Pearson Triton, being in my driveway for 5 years while I completely
renovated it. It started with "I'll just strip and varnish the interior
trim" and ended with me grinding and painting all the interior and the
deck, cabin and cockpit exterior. Among numerous other projects. I sure
learned a lot but I wouldn't take that approach again. I think.

Best of luck with the CB pennant replacement.

Mark
-- 
Boston, MA

2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark, somehow I missed your reply from before.  I removed the wood
> covering and it looks like mine has a single hose which is pretty straight
> forward so I think I'll leave that in place and just thread the new line
> through.  See the attached photo for the setup on my boat.
>
> What is the length of the CB pennant line that you used?  I'll be
> attempting the CB pennant replacement a week from tomorrow by attaching the
> new line to the old line and pulling the new line through.  I'll be untying
> (or cutting off) the old line underwater (using SCUBA gear) and tying on
> the new line with a bowline.  I think I'll need to first secure the
> diamondboard with a line from the stern and perhaps with another line
> around the beam as well so that when I remove the old pennant, the
> diamondboard doesn't continue to pivot any further and drop all the way
> down to vertical.  When I'm at my slip, the diamondboard bottom should only
> be about 18" off the bottom when extended so I could use a bucket to prop
> it up as well.  I'm still thinking through my options...
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 9:06 AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jesse,
> >
> > On my boat the drain was behind a teak or oak covering which was attached
> > to the boat with screws and small angle brackets. I'll try to remember to
> > take pictures when I reassemble things. It was pretty easy for me to
> > remove. Sounds like your boat may be a little different.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 9:31 AM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mark, thanks for sharing.
> > >
> > > On my 1991 R22, it appears that the CB pennant hoses are aft of the
> cabin
> > > and forward of the cockpit so they are hidden from view.  If I had to
> > > access that, I assume that I would need to cut out a panel of the
> > > fiberglass at the aft of the cabin.  Has anyone on the list done
> that?  I
> > > ask because I'm going to be replacing my centerboard pennant at the end
> > of
> > > the season.  I plan to use a messenger line to accomplish this and plan
> > to
> > > leave the existing hoses in place but in case that goes poorly, it
> would
> > be
> > > good to have a backup plan.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:21 AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just in case you wanted to know the rest of the story:
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I finally got around to completing the replacement of drain
> > on
> > > > the bridge deck that the centerboard pennant runs through. I have a
> > 2000
> > > > Rhodes 22.
> > > >
> > > > It took a little bit of experimentation but I found a 1 1/4" ID hose
> > fits
> > > > the upper part of the drain and a 3/4" hose fits on the bottom. I got
> > a 1
> > > > 1/4" to 3/4" adapter to join the two. Add some hose clamps, remember
> to
> > > > thread the CB pennant through it all before installing, and then it's
> > > just
> > > > getting the lengths right so it can all go together but still be long
> > > > enough to be clamped. Attached is a couple pics of the finished
> product
> > > > along with the monstrosity I removed. What you don't see in the
> > "before"
> > > > shot is the completely rusted hose clamps that I had to use a Dremel
> to
> > > > remove. The slit in the old hose is also from the removal process.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --
> > > > Boston, MA
> > > >
> > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> > > > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> > > > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:10 PM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is in the archives somewhere let me know. I've done a
> little
> > > > > searching on Nabble and didn't find what I needed. I need to
> replace
> > > the
> > > > > hose that connects the drain the CB/diamondboard pennant runs
> > through.
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like the OD of the lower section (closer to the CB) is
> 7/8"
> > > OD.
> > > > > The top section where the pennant exits is about 1" ID, so I'm
> > guessing
> > > > > it's about 1 1/4" OD. Total possible length looks to be about 10".
> > The
> > > > > difference in diameters partially explains the abomination that I
> > > > removed.
> > > > > Someone tried to mate two different hoses with clamps and lots of
> > > > silicone.
> > > > >
> > > > > What has worked well for you in replacing this drain hose? I am
> > > wondering
> > > > > if I can get a hose that will fit the upper part of the drain, and
> > then
> > > > use
> > > > > a modified section of that same hose to bring the bottom fitting
> > closer
> > > > to
> > > > > 1 1/4". Then I'd put the larger hose over the smaller one, clamping
> > the
> > > > > smaller section low and then the larger, overlapping hose as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Mark Whipple
> > > > > Boston, MA
> > > > >
> > > > > 2000 R22 Luna Mia
> > > > > 1987 Nimble 30 (for sale)
> > > > > 1982 ComPac 16 (for sale)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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