[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive

Wed Aug 26 11:42:05 EDT 2020

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the drive is at about the same depth as the keel.
I'll try to take a picture from the side later today. Also the rudder
redirects some of the prop wash since the prop is in front. I haven't
had it in the water yet this year (soon!) but I recall the feeling of the
prop wash on the wheel was a little weird. Yes, my boat has a wheel and a
self-tending jib, too. Not sure if it will get up on a plane. We'll see.

Mark

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
wrote:

> Cory - that’s a really interesting install.
> Is 15 HP enough to get on a plane?
> It would not work for my needs - it’s too deep.
> I would need the prop to be no deeper than the bottom of the keel, and I
> would mount it in the middle of the cockpit floor, about a foot aft of the
> end of the keel,  understanding that the motor head (probably electric and
> smaller than the Yamaha head) would require a low cover above the cockpit
> floor.
> I would also like it to be a steerable sail drive with a remote.
> Not sure that such a thing is even available.
> Thanks
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office  631-283-1777
> Cell            516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ric,
> >
> > Here's a few pictures I dug up. I'm currently hunting for a source for
> the
> > zincs.
> >
> > Mark
> > [image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 03.jpg]
> > [image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 04.jpg]
> > [image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 08.jpg]
> >
> >
> > [image: 20200824_165705.jpg]
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:53 AM Richard Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Mark
> >> 15 HP is a lot of motor.
> >> Can you show us a pic of where its mounted?
> >> Any pics of it under the boat?
> >> Can you share performance and maneuverability with us?
> >> I’m dying to know more about this.
> >> A steerable unit is my fantasy but a fixed one might work.
> >> Ric
> >> sv Dadventure
> >> HBNY
> >>
> >> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >> www.stottarchitecture.com
> >> Office  631-283-1777
> >> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Richard,
> >>>
> >>> I purchased my 2000 R22 last year and it came with a 15hp Yamaha
> >> saildrive.
> >>> I haven't had a chance to use the boat much yet, but it seems like it
> >> will
> >>> address many of the issues with an outboard on the transom
> >>> (raising/lowering, keeping the drive underwater).
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately the company that made this saildrive is essentially out
> of
> >>> business. I am concerned about what I'll have to do once this saildrive
> >>> needs a part I can't get or needs a costly repair. I'm not sure I like
> >> the
> >>> alternative solutions that involve a motor on the transom. Maybe I need
> >> to
> >>> start saving my pennies toward a replacement. Regarding that option,
> the
> >>> saildrives I've seen tend to have larger engine than mine - often a
> >> diesel.
> >>> Mine is essentially a Yamaha (made by Parsun) outboard head so it's not
> >>> very tall. Maybe I'll be lucky and not have to solve the replacement
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Boston, MA
> >>>
> >>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> >>> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> >>> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:14 AM Richard Stott <
> >> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cary
> >>>> My ’84 GB mount broke on spring launch the year and my Yamaha 8 went
> in
> >>>> the drink.
> >>>> I purchased a motor mount from West marine immediately so I could
> >> continue
> >>>> to use the boat with a spare motor I happened to have on hand.
> >>>> Its a stinky smoky ’99 Merc 2 stroke, but it always starts and runs
> when
> >>>> it need it - well almost always.
> >>>> I talked it over on the list and discussed with Mike Riter a plan to
> >>>> convert the GB mount to be equipped with a threaded gear (his sketch)
> so
> >>>> that the mont can be moved with a manual crank or an electric motor.
> >>>> This would be huge advantage over the 6/1 tackle it came equipped
> with.
> >>>> I’ve been enjoying the boat too much to stop and refine that design of
> >>>> Mikes - that’s a winter project.
> >>>>
> >>>> In any case the parallelogram type mount works fairly well, it has
> pros
> >>>> and cons.
> >>>> One of the biggest cons is that the moro in the down position is
> father
> >>>> aft of the transom and will cavitate and lose thrust in larger waves,
> >>>> especially with weight on the bow.
> >>>> I will like the GB system (modified) over the alternative, but the
> West
> >>>> marine mount was easy to install and serves the immediate need.
> >>>> (What I really want is an electric,  steerable, remote controlled, 20
> hp
> >>>> sail drive mounted right behind the keel trunk.)
> >>>> It’s doable for approximately one tone of money.
> >>>>
> >>>> One way I use the boat is unusual.
> >>>> I moore my boat 50 yards off shore.
> >>>> I use a stand-up paddle board for a tender because it's light and easy
> >> to
> >>>> cary to the shore.
> >>>> I then use the motor only, with the rudder up, to back the boat on to
> >> the
> >>>> beach to pick up  provisions and of course my wife, who is not one to
> >>>> paddle out to the boat.
> >>>> Depending on the tide and the slope of the beach, I can sometimes put
> >> the
> >>>> stern right on the beach.
> >>>> An opening in the stern rail, like the more modern R22s would be a
> huge
> >>>> asset for picking up passengers from the beach. (next year)
> >>>> Ric
> >>>> sv Dadventure
> >>>> stay tuned for ‘motor mount mod’ updates
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >>>> www.stottarchitecture.com <http://www.stottarchitecture.com/>
> >>>> Office  631-283-1777
> >>>> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Preview attachment 20200825_174517.jpg
> >>>>> 20200825_174517.jpg
> >>>>> 4 MB
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> >>
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=be1ab8c6c5&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7374969717110164997&th=1742adb6a4937cb8&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=1742adb12d8c3f23bf81
> >>>>> Once
> >>>>> again HELP. Wed. the 25th I was motoring from my slip out on to the
> >> lake
> >>>>> and kerplunk. The motor raising part of the boat fell off with the
> >> motor
> >>>>> attached and still running. I also had it attached with a s/s chain.
> >>>> Lucky
> >>>>> or not.? ? ? Stan no longer makes the parts for an 86. He said he has
> >>>> long
> >>>>> moved to newer and hopefully better designs. It seems the starboard
> >>>>> material used to let the motor slide in the rails failed. My question
> >> is
> >>>>> should I attempt to repair with parts of better materials or buy a
> >>>>> gerneric  system for raising and lowering one's motor . Say something
> >>>> that
> >>>>> would fit a Catalina 22? Looking for advice from the centuries of
> >>>>> experience on the list
> >>>>> Cary Tolbert S/V Whisper '86
> >>>>> Radford, VA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Boston, MA
> >>>
> >>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> >>> 1986 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> >>> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >>
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