[Rhodes22-list] Emergency diamondboard help...at boatyard for only a little while longer

Olivier Hecht oehecht at gmail.com
Mon May 25 12:00:53 EDT 2020


Thanks Stan. I already have two of those three upgrades and love them but
have been thinking about a new tiller at some point!

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:02 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Oliver,
>
> www.rhodes22parts.com has parts for the Rhodes that are not available
> from marine suppliers.  In the case of your diamond board however I do
> think that it would be less costly if you have your current one repaired
> locally.  Freight alone for a centerboard can be an item.  With all that
> saving how about a new style outhaul car or a fabulous fiberglass tiller
> or the new invention traveler system.
>
> While you got me to my keyboard, a comment.  Every action has an equal
> and opposite reaction. Every recycled and new Rhodes has a yoke that
> prevents the genoa line from leaving its drum so the energy needed to
> pull out the sail is not altered.  From a 94 year old perspective every
> ounce is an item.  For you young bucks the extra force needed to pull
> out the genoa with either Mikes or Rogers ingenious tension techniques
> would hardly be measurable so a small price to pay.  Besides who sails
> at 94.
>
> And Don, if you are listening, I have no recollection of your inquiring
> about a rub rail insert replacement. We have those in stock for Boston
> Whaler owners since their boats came with red and we are the only ones
> who also have that color.  But the reflective tape idea sound interesting?
>
> On 5/24/20 8:34 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> > Hi Stan!  It almost looked like that extra piece was glassed in...if not
> > than definitely glued down well. I think I’d damage the hull interface
> just
> > by removing it. I’m thinking about just enlarging the inner opening with
> a
> > keyhole saw to allow me to pull the board. I don’t think the slick
> surface
> > on the laminate gives the gasket the best matings surface either...that
> > might explain my slightly wet bilge. Do you sell new diamond boards, or
> is
> > it usually more economical to have them repaired locally?
> >
> > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:17 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mary Lou,
> >>
> >> since this is between me and you I am happy to join in to report what my
> >> now occasionally lying eyes are seeing.
> >>
> >> A prior owner, as is usually the case when someone reports on a
> >> ridiculous design fault attributed to GB, sacrificed access to the cb in
> >> the cb trunk in favor of a quick improper fix.
> >>
> >> The only recourse now for removing the cb is to take off the white
> >> whatever it is, throw it away. lift out the cb. Fix what has to be
> >> fixed.  AND THEN REASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE CB SYSTEM AS GOD AND GB DESIGNED
> >> IT TO BE.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/24/20 7:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:
> >>> Hi Olivier,
> >>>
> >>> The laminate is not standard R22 construction.
> >>>
> >>> At one point we were going to do something to the board, I forget
> >>> what, maybe replace the pennant or get rid of the pully in the raising
> >>> system and had ordered a new gasket from Stan. When we got it apart
> >>> and discovered the laminate, we abandoned the project. We asked Stan
> >>> about it and via email he basically shrugged his shoulders and said
> >>> something to the effect that "that wasn't our repair." It wasn't
> >>> leaking, we found another way to do what we were going to do and
> >>> forgot about it. In fact I didn't realize I still had the exchange
> >>> with Stan in an old email program until now.
> >>>
> >>> After a bit of back and forth on a photo, Stan's exact words on the
> >>> subject from 2003 were:
> >>>
> >>> "So what I am seeing is a fiberglass "washer" between the top lip of
> >>> the trunk and
> >>> neoprene gasket.  The question then is was there any leakage between
> >>> the fiberglass
> >>> gasket and the cb trunk lip?  If no then I would leave it in place and
> >>> just use a
> >>> jib saw to cut on opening in it to match the opening in the cb trunk -
> >>> it should
> >>> cut easily since it is probably not very thick  If on the other hand
> >>> there was
> >>> leakage between this element and the cb trunk cap I would do whatever
> >>> is necessary
> >>> to pull it off and throw it away and sand smooth the top of the trunk
> >>> lip to
> >>> receive the neoprene gasket."
> >>>
> >>> As I noted above, it wasn't leaking so my recollection is we decided
> >>> not to mess with it.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry this isn't more help.
> >>>
> >>> Mary Lou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/24/2020 6:12 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> >>>> My last message with two pics bounced back...hopefully this goes
> >>>> through...
> >>>>
> >>>> Whoops...sorry. Forgot to attach it!  Here they are. That white piece
> is
> >>>> glued to the boat...I’m sure of it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:02 PM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The pic didn’t come through?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:58 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well the board fell onto the trailer axle since I guess I pulled
> >>>>>> the boat
> >>>>>> too far forward. Took a chunk out of it so I decided to try to pull
> >>>>>> it. I
> >>>>>> just got the cap off after removing ~60 10mm bolts with blind nuts
> and
> >>>>> now
> >>>>>> I can’t access the pivot to remove the board. See pics...the white
> >>>>>> piece
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>> laminate? seems to be glasses into the hull. I’m afraid to destroy
> >>>>>> it by
> >>>>>> prying. Can anyone confirm to me that this piece should be
> >>>>>> removable?  I
> >>>>>> cants see any other way to lift the board out since the pivot is
> >>>>>> inaccessible. I’ll be at the boat for an hour more max, then I have
> to
> >>>>> head
> >>>>>> home. Was really hoping to take the board with me!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard Beytagh
> >>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
> >>>>>
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