[Rhodes22-list] Emergency diamondboard help...at boatyard for only a little while longer

Sat May 30 11:51:45 EDT 2020

Got the board pulled today and the local yard should be able to repair it
this week. Here is a picture in case anyone is curious about the layers of
construction.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:00 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Stan. I already have two of those three upgrades and love them but
> have been thinking about a new tiller at some point!
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:02 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oliver,
>>
>> www.rhodes22parts.com has parts for the Rhodes that are not available
>> from marine suppliers.  In the case of your diamond board however I do
>> think that it would be less costly if you have your current one repaired
>> locally.  Freight alone for a centerboard can be an item.  With all that
>> saving how about a new style outhaul car or a fabulous fiberglass tiller
>> or the new invention traveler system.
>>
>> While you got me to my keyboard, a comment.  Every action has an equal
>> and opposite reaction. Every recycled and new Rhodes has a yoke that
>> prevents the genoa line from leaving its drum so the energy needed to
>> pull out the sail is not altered.  From a 94 year old perspective every
>> ounce is an item.  For you young bucks the extra force needed to pull
>> out the genoa with either Mikes or Rogers ingenious tension techniques
>> would hardly be measurable so a small price to pay.  Besides who sails
>> at 94.
>>
>> And Don, if you are listening, I have no recollection of your inquiring
>> about a rub rail insert replacement. We have those in stock for Boston
>> Whaler owners since their boats came with red and we are the only ones
>> who also have that color.  But the reflective tape idea sound interesting?
>>
>> On 5/24/20 8:34 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>> > Hi Stan!  It almost looked like that extra piece was glassed in...if not
>> > than definitely glued down well. I think I’d damage the hull interface
>> just
>> > by removing it. I’m thinking about just enlarging the inner opening
>> with a
>> > keyhole saw to allow me to pull the board. I don’t think the slick
>> surface
>> > on the laminate gives the gasket the best matings surface either...that
>> > might explain my slightly wet bilge. Do you sell new diamond boards, or
>> is
>> > it usually more economical to have them repaired locally?
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:17 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mary Lou,
>> >>
>> >> since this is between me and you I am happy to join in to report what
>> my
>> >> now occasionally lying eyes are seeing.
>> >>
>> >> A prior owner, as is usually the case when someone reports on a
>> >> ridiculous design fault attributed to GB, sacrificed access to the cb
>> in
>> >> the cb trunk in favor of a quick improper fix.
>> >>
>> >> The only recourse now for removing the cb is to take off the white
>> >> whatever it is, throw it away. lift out the cb. Fix what has to be
>> >> fixed.  AND THEN REASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE CB SYSTEM AS GOD AND GB DESIGNED
>> >> IT TO BE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5/24/20 7:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:
>> >>> Hi Olivier,
>> >>>
>> >>> The laminate is not standard R22 construction.
>> >>>
>> >>> At one point we were going to do something to the board, I forget
>> >>> what, maybe replace the pennant or get rid of the pully in the raising
>> >>> system and had ordered a new gasket from Stan. When we got it apart
>> >>> and discovered the laminate, we abandoned the project. We asked Stan
>> >>> about it and via email he basically shrugged his shoulders and said
>> >>> something to the effect that "that wasn't our repair." It wasn't
>> >>> leaking, we found another way to do what we were going to do and
>> >>> forgot about it. In fact I didn't realize I still had the exchange
>> >>> with Stan in an old email program until now.
>> >>>
>> >>> After a bit of back and forth on a photo, Stan's exact words on the
>> >>> subject from 2003 were:
>> >>>
>> >>> "So what I am seeing is a fiberglass "washer" between the top lip of
>> >>> the trunk and
>> >>> neoprene gasket.  The question then is was there any leakage between
>> >>> the fiberglass
>> >>> gasket and the cb trunk lip?  If no then I would leave it in place and
>> >>> just use a
>> >>> jib saw to cut on opening in it to match the opening in the cb trunk -
>> >>> it should
>> >>> cut easily since it is probably not very thick  If on the other hand
>> >>> there was
>> >>> leakage between this element and the cb trunk cap I would do whatever
>> >>> is necessary
>> >>> to pull it off and throw it away and sand smooth the top of the trunk
>> >>> lip to
>> >>> receive the neoprene gasket."
>> >>>
>> >>> As I noted above, it wasn't leaking so my recollection is we decided
>> >>> not to mess with it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry this isn't more help.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mary Lou
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/24/2020 6:12 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>> >>>> My last message with two pics bounced back...hopefully this goes
>> >>>> through...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Whoops...sorry. Forgot to attach it!  Here they are. That white
>> piece is
>> >>>> glued to the boat...I’m sure of it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:02 PM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> The pic didn’t come through?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:58 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well the board fell onto the trailer axle since I guess I pulled
>> >>>>>> the boat
>> >>>>>> too far forward. Took a chunk out of it so I decided to try to pull
>> >>>>>> it. I
>> >>>>>> just got the cap off after removing ~60 10mm bolts with blind nuts
>> and
>> >>>>> now
>> >>>>>> I can’t access the pivot to remove the board. See pics...the white
>> >>>>>> piece
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>>> laminate? seems to be glasses into the hull. I’m afraid to destroy
>> >>>>>> it by
>> >>>>>> prying. Can anyone confirm to me that this piece should be
>> >>>>>> removable?  I
>> >>>>>> cants see any other way to lift the board out since the pivot is
>> >>>>>> inaccessible. I’ll be at the boat for an hour more max, then I
>> have to
>> >>>>> head
>> >>>>>> home. Was really hoping to take the board with me!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Richard Beytagh
>> >>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
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