[Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 13:07:31 EST 2020 

Ric.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ric,
> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the
> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There
> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do.
> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white
> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull.
> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer.
> (This is my second attempt. First one with three pics was too large, so
> I'll send separately.)
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ric,
>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the
>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There
>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do.
>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white
>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull.
>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer.
>> Hope my pics come through:
>>
>> "Slim"
>> Fandango
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:00 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steven
>>> I’m glad my pics came through.
>>> Yours a looks more like Cary’s than mine.
>>> You both have have plastic outside of the U channel.
>>> I think mine rails are screwed to the transom using screws from the laz,
>>> that is, the inside of the transom - directly into the plastic strips on
>>> the inside of my rails.
>>> I have a 1/2 plastic running vertical on the inside of each U channel.
>>> The StarBoard or whatever that is, decreases the dept of the u channel
>>> by 1/2”, so there is only a 1/2” channel to hold the motor on the boat.
>>> The mount and transom was very weak in the area and the whole transom
>>> flexed - even in the area the rails attached, which hold have stiffened it
>>> vertically at least.
>>>
>>> I like your set up better and will move in that direction.
>>> It appears that your Plastic strips are screwed into the transom at
>>> like- 3” o.c.
>>> The material looks to be about 3/4’ x 1” - can you confirm that for me?
>>> Are those thru bolts?
>>> What is the backing behind the transom?
>>> How are the U channels fastened to the Plastic strips on each side?
>>> Thanks - that’s alotta questions.
>>> Ric Dadventure
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> Office  631-283-1777
>>> Cell            516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Steven. It does look similar to my tracks. Less secure than I
>>> would
>>> > have thought.  Your track looks to be longer than my set up.
>>> > Thanks again for the help.
>>> > Cary
>>> > S/V Whisper
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:56 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> My boat is a 1990 but probably similar vintage motor lift. The
>>> stopper is
>>> >> only on the starboard side track with is longer than the port side.
>>> It is
>>> >> not through-bolted to the transom and just unscrews. The bolt is
>>> covered
>>> >> with a plastic or composite bushing.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:11 AM Richard Stott <
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Nabble is a PITA
>>> >>> Here are some pics.
>>> >>> Westmarine mount is temporary.
>>> >>> The GB 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" rails are 11 7/8” apart - out to out.
>>> >>> My new rails will extend past the useless rub rail.
>>> >>> But -They will not extend past the top of the transom.
>>> >>> It will be manual.
>>> >>> The stops are simple 1/4” aluminum bolts at the bottom of the rails.
>>> >>> More to follow
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> >>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> >>> Office  631-283-1777
>>> >>> Cell            516-965-3164
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks Rob
>>> >>>> There is a good reason for asking questions.  The more brains the
>>> >> better.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 8:32 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Cary,
>>> >>>>> I don't believe grease on the tracks would be a good idea.  Any
>>> grease
>>> >>>>> would attract and hold dirt, which will just add to the wear.  I
>>> >> think a
>>> >>>>> spray lubricant such as Sailcoat would be the most you would want
>>> to
>>> >>> use. -
>>> >>>>> Rob
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ________________________________
>>> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf of
>>> >>>>> Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:07 PM
>>> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thanks Ric. You mentioned, from your survey, that we had the same
>>> >> mount.
>>> >>>>> The pictures would be really great. If you could give me the
>>> >>>>> dimensions that would put me in business.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> While I am at it, I have one more question for those on da List.
>>> Does
>>> >>>>> anyone have experience with silicone dielectric grease as lubricant
>>> >> on a
>>> >>>>> track. I am thinking of  the rails of the motor lift.
>>> >>>>> Cary
>>> >>>>> Whisper
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM Ric Stott <
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Cory
>>> >>>>>> The pics I see of the red boat has a motor mount a grade level up
>>> >> from
>>> >>>>>> mine.  My aluminum rails are attached directly to the hull. There
>>> is
>>> >> a
>>> >>>>>> Delrin (I think) strip that runs on the inside of the channel,
>>> bottom
>>> >>> to
>>> >>>>>> top. I took some pics and will send them out on Monday if I can.
>>> >>>>>> Ric
>>> >>>>>> Dadventure
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> The minute I get off the waiting list at your marina I'll pull
>>> the
>>> >>>>>> trigger
>>> >>>>>>> on getting a recycled one from Stan.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Cary Tolbert <
>>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Lee. Your boat looks like it was upgraded in its  life.
>>> That
>>> >>>>>> system
>>> >>>>>>>> is much newer and a better thought out system than the one on my
>>> >> 86.
>>> >>>>>>>> Rob's 90 something has something similar for his 9.9 hp with all
>>> >>>>>> electrical
>>> >>>>>>>> controls.
>>> >>>>>>>> Any luck on tracking down your Rhodes 22 to be?
>>> >>>>>>>> Cary
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't know if any of the attached of my former 1986 AT EASE
>>> will
>>> >>>>> help.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Might need to enlarge.  Seems like a variety of stops might
>>> work.
>>> >>>>> Good
>>> >>>>>>>>> luck!
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Lee
>>> >>>>>>>>> No Boat Yet
>>> >>>>>>>>> Claytor Lake, VA
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cary Tolbert <
>>> >>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am asking for help with photos for an 86 Rhodes.  My boat
>>> was
>>> >>>>>>>>>> apparently hit
>>> >>>>>>>>>> in the marina and I have a damaged motor mount. I was able to
>>> >>>>> salvage
>>> >>>>>>>>> most
>>> >>>>>>>>>> of the damaged parts and replicate them from existing
>>> patterns of
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>> old
>>> >>>>>>>>>> parts.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, the LOWER STOPS were missing. So at this point I
>>> have no
>>> >>>>> idea
>>> >>>>>>>>> what
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need to do to replicate these parts. Photos will be very
>>> >> helpful.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Measurement would also be greatly appreciated. I am guessing
>>> any
>>> >>>>> boat
>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>>> >>>>>>>>>> an 82 to an 89 may have a very similar set up.  Ric I am glad
>>> you
>>> >>>>> can
>>> >>>>>>>> now
>>> >>>>>>>>>> send pictures with your computer. You mentioned that we have
>>> the
>>> >>>>> same
>>> >>>>>>>> set
>>> >>>>>>>>>> up. What type of material did Stan use for the stops?  Stan
>>> said,
>>> >>> he
>>> >>>>>> no
>>> >>>>>>>>>> longer makes this type of mount and cannot furnish parts. So I
>>> >> must
>>> >>>>>>>> rely
>>> >>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>> your help and my modest skills to be able to sail next season.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> It must have been a lot of force on the collision as I found
>>> >> three
>>> >>>>>>>> 1/4
>>> >>>>>>>>>> inch stainless steel bolts bent to 90 degrees and one bolt was
>>> >>>>> sheared
>>> >>>>>>>>> into
>>> >>>>>>>>>> two pieces.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cary Tolbert
>>> >>>>>>>>>> S/V Whisper "86
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Radford, VA
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