[Rhodes22-list] 175 vs 130 Genoa

Tue Nov 24 15:42:32 EST 2020

Mary Lou’s old sail is still fun!

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Mitch Mitchell <mitchpadl at gmail.com> wrote:

> That’s looks like an interesting set up. Visibility looks a little iffy.
> I’d probably end up t-boning someone.😊
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > We did use it wing on wing a few times. I will say the boat was
> probably faster on a very broad reach with all sail than downwind wing on
> wing but in a nice steady breeze it was fun and not at all squirelly. The
> photos are from the first time we tried it and we tried it both with the
> one whisker pole and with no pole and didn't really see much difference. We
> used a ring at the base of the mast to attach the pole. We had a bit of
> track to mount a moveable ring on the mast to get a better angle but we
> never did it.
> >
> > As far as pad eye placement the 4" gave plenty of room for the
> mini-furler and it didn't interfere {much} with the 175 sheets.
> >
> > I really loved that sail. It was a bit of hassle to rig and take down
> but it was so much fun and so forgiving. The only time we ever had an issue
> was one time on a run down the bay. We had the sail poled out and didn't
> really notice the wind rising until it seemed somewhat dangerous for me to
> go forward to take it down. We solved that by blanketing it with the main.
> Once I got the pole unclipped the sail was easy to handle because it was so
> lightweight.
> >
> > I think there were about 5 or 6 of us that were in on the initial group
> talking to Doyle about the sail. I'm not sure how many ultimately bought
> one.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > ex Rhodes 22
> > now Rosborough RF-246
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 11/24/2020 8:39 AM, Jesse Shumaker wrote:
> >> Now that I look at the link Mary Lou provided, I see the suggestion is
> to
> >> mount the pad eye about 4 inches behind the forestay.
> >>
> >> Just curious, has anyone else gotten the UPS sail and if so, have you
> found
> >> it helpful?
> >>
> >> Also, for those that have  the UPS sail - has anyone tried using a dual
> >> headsail (genoa + UPS) wing on wing arrangement without the main going
> >> downwind?  It seems like that would be helpful since you wouldn't have
> to
> >> worry about an accidental jibe.  I suppose it may be helpful/necessary
> to
> >> have a whisker pole for each headsail in that case.
> >>
> >> Jesse Shumaker
> >> S/V Zephyr
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jesse Shumaker <
> >> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mary Lou, thanks for sharing the great photos of the Code 0 / UPS sail.
> >>> Do you recall any particulars (how far back) regarding the pad-eye
> >>> placement behind the forestay?  I'm adding a plate as a base for a bow
> >>> roller, so I think I may add a pad-eye to the base plate while I'm
> working
> >>> on this project.  All of this will be through bolted to a backing
> plate on
> >>> the interior of the deck in the v-berth, so it will be adequately
> >>> supported.  I don't have a Code 0 / UPS right now, but it would be
> nice to
> >>> have the pad-eye in place in case I do get one of those sails later.
> >>>
> >>> Peter, have you been happy with the placement of your pad-eye that you
> >>> added for your UPS sail?  I saw your setup where you added a pad eye to
> >>> your bow sprit in one of your youtube videos.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jesse Shumaker
> >>> S/V Zephyr
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:59 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Tom,
> >>>> There's still some (very old) info on the Rhodes owners website from
> >>>> when we were initially talking about the sail.
> >>>> (http://rhodes22.org/upssail/index.html) I don't think Doyle actually
> >>>> sells this sail anymore but they or someone might make you one. A
> search
> >>>> of the archives for UPS might yield some more a lot posts. It's more
> of
> >>>> what they were calling at the time a Code 0 rather than a spinnaker
> and
> >>>> could be sailed to somewhere above a beam reach. In addition to the
> >>>> sail, we needed to add a halyard, a halyard restrainer and a padeye on
> >>>> the foredeck behind the jib for the minifurler for the UPS to attach
> to.
> >>>>
> >>>> The sail was just a tremendous amount of fun to play with. The
> attached
> >>>> photos are our old boat flying the UPS on a particularly lovely day
> when
> >>>> we sailed south from Rock Hall, MD, came around the point at Eastern
> >>>> Neck Island and then sailed northeast up the Chester River all with
> the
> >>>> UPS and no tacks in a north wind. And then a helicopter came and took
> >>>> our picture. Just an unbelievably wonderful day.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mary Lou
> >>>> ex Rhodes 22
> >>>> now Rosborough RF-246
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/23/2020 7:01 PM, Tom Van Heule wrote:
> >>>>> I like the sound and added hassle of the second sail. The boat is
> >>>> generally
> >>>>> so easy to sail... gimme something to do! Lol  Anyone have an archive
> >>>> link
> >>>>> to appease my curiosity in the details?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> .... I'm excited to be able to sail in the same direction for more
> than
> >>>> 15
> >>>>> minutes!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I want to say, as I can get away with it this week, how thankful we
> are
> >>>> for
> >>>>> this community.  We learn so much, we have fun, we are smart people,
> and
> >>>>> it's just... swell.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Smooth sailing,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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