[Rhodes22-list] 175 vs 130 Genoa

Tue Nov 24 17:59:44 EST 2020

So good to hear! Thanks for the photos Olivier!
ML

On 11/24/2020 3:42 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> Mary Lou’s old sail is still fun!
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Mitch Mitchell <mitchpadl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That’s looks like an interesting set up. Visibility looks a little iffy.
>> I’d probably end up t-boning someone.😊
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> wrote:
>>> We did use it wing on wing a few times. I will say the boat was
>> probably faster on a very broad reach with all sail than downwind wing on
>> wing but in a nice steady breeze it was fun and not at all squirelly. The
>> photos are from the first time we tried it and we tried it both with the
>> one whisker pole and with no pole and didn't really see much difference. We
>> used a ring at the base of the mast to attach the pole. We had a bit of
>> track to mount a moveable ring on the mast to get a better angle but we
>> never did it.
>>> As far as pad eye placement the 4" gave plenty of room for the
>> mini-furler and it didn't interfere {much} with the 175 sheets.
>>> I really loved that sail. It was a bit of hassle to rig and take down
>> but it was so much fun and so forgiving. The only time we ever had an issue
>> was one time on a run down the bay. We had the sail poled out and didn't
>> really notice the wind rising until it seemed somewhat dangerous for me to
>> go forward to take it down. We solved that by blanketing it with the main.
>> Once I got the pole unclipped the sail was easy to handle because it was so
>> lightweight.
>>> I think there were about 5 or 6 of us that were in on the initial group
>> talking to Doyle about the sail. I'm not sure how many ultimately bought
>> one.
>>> Mary Lou
>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>> now Rosborough RF-246
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/24/2020 8:39 AM, Jesse Shumaker wrote:
>>>> Now that I look at the link Mary Lou provided, I see the suggestion is
>> to
>>>> mount the pad eye about 4 inches behind the forestay.
>>>>
>>>> Just curious, has anyone else gotten the UPS sail and if so, have you
>> found
>>>> it helpful?
>>>>
>>>> Also, for those that have  the UPS sail - has anyone tried using a dual
>>>> headsail (genoa + UPS) wing on wing arrangement without the main going
>>>> downwind?  It seems like that would be helpful since you wouldn't have
>> to
>>>> worry about an accidental jibe.  I suppose it may be helpful/necessary
>> to
>>>> have a whisker pole for each headsail in that case.
>>>>
>>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>>> S/V Zephyr
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jesse Shumaker <
>>>> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou, thanks for sharing the great photos of the Code 0 / UPS sail.
>>>>> Do you recall any particulars (how far back) regarding the pad-eye
>>>>> placement behind the forestay?  I'm adding a plate as a base for a bow
>>>>> roller, so I think I may add a pad-eye to the base plate while I'm
>> working
>>>>> on this project.  All of this will be through bolted to a backing
>> plate on
>>>>> the interior of the deck in the v-berth, so it will be adequately
>>>>> supported.  I don't have a Code 0 / UPS right now, but it would be
>> nice to
>>>>> have the pad-eye in place in case I do get one of those sails later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter, have you been happy with the placement of your pad-eye that you
>>>>> added for your UPS sail?  I saw your setup where you added a pad eye to
>>>>> your bow sprit in one of your youtube videos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>>>> S/V Zephyr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:59 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>> There's still some (very old) info on the Rhodes owners website from
>>>>>> when we were initially talking about the sail.
>>>>>> (http://rhodes22.org/upssail/index.html) I don't think Doyle actually
>>>>>> sells this sail anymore but they or someone might make you one. A
>> search
>>>>>> of the archives for UPS might yield some more a lot posts. It's more
>> of
>>>>>> what they were calling at the time a Code 0 rather than a spinnaker
>> and
>>>>>> could be sailed to somewhere above a beam reach. In addition to the
>>>>>> sail, we needed to add a halyard, a halyard restrainer and a padeye on
>>>>>> the foredeck behind the jib for the minifurler for the UPS to attach
>> to.
>>>>>> The sail was just a tremendous amount of fun to play with. The
>> attached
>>>>>> photos are our old boat flying the UPS on a particularly lovely day
>> when
>>>>>> we sailed south from Rock Hall, MD, came around the point at Eastern
>>>>>> Neck Island and then sailed northeast up the Chester River all with
>> the
>>>>>> UPS and no tacks in a north wind. And then a helicopter came and took
>>>>>> our picture. Just an unbelievably wonderful day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>>> now Rosborough RF-246
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/23/2020 7:01 PM, Tom Van Heule wrote:
>>>>>>> I like the sound and added hassle of the second sail. The boat is
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>>> so easy to sail... gimme something to do! Lol  Anyone have an archive
>>>>>> link
>>>>>>> to appease my curiosity in the details?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .... I'm excited to be able to sail in the same direction for more
>> than
>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>> minutes!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to say, as I can get away with it this week, how thankful we
>> are
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> this community.  We learn so much, we have fun, we are smart people,
>> and
>>>>>>> it's just... swell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smooth sailing,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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