[Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle

[Hank]

I see a beautiful sunset, Ric.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

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> Ric
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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for all the quick responses, links to articles and details of your
> experiences removing "the devil's glue."  It really helps to have the
> collective knowledge and research of the group!
>
> I ordered some Marine Formula DeBond and a razor blade scraper knife.  I
> also made a wooden wedge and have a rubber mallet ready for some *very
> *gentle
> taps after patiently waiting for the adhesive remover to go to work.  The
> DeBond should get here on Friday so this will be a weekend project.  Until
> then, I have other boat projects underway to keep me busy when I'm not at
> work.
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> I'll be sure to follow up this weekend and let you know the (hopefully not
> gripping) conclusion.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> OK I am adding to this as I JUST got through managing a 5200-attached hatch
> on forward deck
> STRONGLY recommend you not use mallet  or cutting as this can damage the
> deck.
> DEBOND (can get via Amazon)works well and is safer
> Spray a good layer of the debond under one side of the tabernacle and wait
> a few minutes, then lightly tap wooden wedges into the gap. patience
> essential here. Spray more in and advance a little bit at a time. It will
> work, just do not force it or you will split the fiberglass. Will need a
> sharp chisel to clean off the gel coat
> Agree that Practical Sailor article very helpful as well
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
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> I wonder how 3M 5200 compares to adult barnacle attachment secretion
>
> which
>
> is nearly impossible to break.
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> Maybe Debond would work on barnacles!
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Graham Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:07 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
>
> Mark: I wouldn't even use it for the hull-deck joint. In fact I had to
> break the seal to remove the foredeck on my boat. I may be the only
>
> person
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> to ever do that but still I don't think anything is permanent. 5200 and
> similar are incredible adhesives but if you are primarily interested in a
> sealant where high adhesive qualities are not the highest priority and if
> there is any possibility that you might want to break the bond in the
> future, I would always seek an alternative. 3M 4200 is a very strong
> adhesive but is easier to remove.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
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> Behalf
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> Of Mark Whipple
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:28 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
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> I've read that if you take a strong, thin wire like piano wire you can
> slowly cut through the 5200 (AKA Devil's Glue). Don't know if heating it
> would help. I've never needed to try this so if you do let us know how it
> goes.
>
> About the only legit use I've heard of for 5200 is a hull-to-deck joint.
> That's something that you hope you'll never have to disassemble.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mark
>
> Boston, MA
>
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:03 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
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> Where something is adhering to fiberglass with 5200 I think a
> sufficient whack to break the bond is likely to remove the gel coat
> before the bond breaks. A whack might work for a metal to metal bond
> but I would still be very careful especially for something like cast
>
> aluminum.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Ric Stott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:09 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
>
> Careful wack with Rubber mallet!!
> Ric
> Dadventure
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> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
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> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hey Jesse,
> Sounds like PL5200. Strongest stuff in the world. Just about
> impossible
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> to
>
> remove. You might make a hack saw frame but with the blade at 90
> degrees
>
> to
>
> a normal one. Slowly cut between the cabin roof and tabernacle. At
> some point you can apply a rotational motion and should get it off.
> You will Have an ugly scarred area. Research to see if they have
> come up with a solvent for 5200. If so, use that rather than the
> butchery method. Good luck.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis.
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Jesse Shumaker <
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> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
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> wrote:
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> Hi, I'm attempting to remove the mast tabernacle in order to
> install the Dwyer Halyard Organizer plate (part DH288).  The three
> screws came out easily, but the tabernacle is still attached very
> strongly with an adhesive.  I don't know what adhesive was used.
> The adhesive is colored white.  I tried heating up the plate with a
> soldering iron and tried to squeeze in a razor but have been unable
>
> to break the seal.
>
>
> I would appreciate any tips from the group on how to free the
> tabernacle from the cabin top.  Thanks in advance for any advice!
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
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