[Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure

Wed May 18 15:37:25 EDT 2022

Patrick -  you might consider using the straps (or a bracket) to hold the panels up against the bottom of the bench seats rather than down on the cockpit sole. 
Ric 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
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> On May 18, 2022, at 3:05 PM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ric,
> Thanks for the suggestion, the front panel fit snugly under the starboard
> cockpit seat, not a mm to spare. This is not planned. The two side panels
> sit on top and there's still room to slide a shallow container on top. I
> need straps to tie the 3 panels down.
> 
> Roger,
> Q1, I sew a PVC cover for the back, first time sewing, lots of language,
> please see pictures attached.
> Q2, No windows. Slide open the hatch for ventilation, push the whole top up
> for more. If needed, I will add a strip of fine mosquito nettings and
> velcro the netting from the raised FG top to the 3 panels. I should be able
> to sew this strip with ease now.
> 
> I have an old pop top enclosure and it doesn't fit any more. The rigid
> panels can be installed a lot easier, installed without leaving the cabin.
> 
> Just came back from a solo shake down sail with all the tops up. Duck
> survived all points of sail, top stay put.
> It is still a work in progress.
> 
> Photos will be on a seperate email. Gmail doesn't like oneDrive.
> 
> patrick
> 
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> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:43 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com <mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Patrick,
>> 
>> I like the smooth, clean look of your hard pop top enclosure.  However, I
>> have two questions:
>> 
>> 
>>  1.  My canvas pop top enclosure has provision for sealing off the
>> companionway hatch above the hatch cover boards.   On your hard pop top
>> enclosure, is there another piece that seals off the companionway hatch
>> opening that is not shown in the picture?
>>  2.  The side windows and door on my canvas pop top enclosure have
>> windows.  Each of these windows is complete with inner privacy screens,
>> insect screens, and clear plastic windows that shed rain.  Does your hard
>> pop top enclosure have any provisions for ventilation and privacy?
>> 
>> The following 6 pictures are from the archives:
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>> As you can see, the canvas pop top enclosure rolls up and fits loosely
>> into a 20 liter dry bag.  This dry bag will fit up under the gunnel behind
>> the cockpit seats.  I have some Velcro straps up there to keep it in
>> place.  There is enough room on the foredeck to do the 6 illustrated
>> folding steps, although it’s easier on the dock or a lawn.
>> 
>> Do you sail with your hard pop top up?
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
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>> From: Ric Stott<mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com <mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 5:28 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure
>> 
>> We’ll done Patrick. Very nice look.
>> I think they could be stored under the cockpit seats if a clever support
>> was crafted, they would disappear under the seat and leave room on the
>> cockpit sole for more.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Brian Ferguson <
>> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m getting a Com-Pac 23/IV vibe from that picture.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 16:44 Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Very impressive!
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022, 4:39 PM Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Someone wanted to see the exterior, here you go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 17, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Graham,
>>>>>> I am still thinking where to stow the board.
>>>>>> I am thinking of standing them up forward and against the bulkhead. I
>>>>> previously lowered the floor at the head area, and there's enough
>> height
>>>> to
>>>>> stow the boards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> patrick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 7:59 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff, Peter, & Patrick,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter is correct about just keeping out rain when the boat is not
>>>>> moving.  However, if you trailer your boat in the rain &/or ever take
>>>> green
>>>>> water over the deck while sailing; then, you will find the raised lip
>>>>> around the pop top will not be enough.  Patrick is correct about the
>>>>> adhesive backed closed cell foam tape adhered to the top and bottom
>> edge.
>>>>> This foam-to-foam seal will keep out all but the most driving rain,
>> even
>>>> at
>>>>> expressway speeds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> From: Patrick Cheung<mailto:chitakcheung at gmail.com <mailto:chitakcheung at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 6:13 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> White foam sponge tape, will be adhered to top and bottom edge.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com <mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't think it needs one.  You're just keeping rain out.  The
>>>>> raised lip around the pop-top should be enough to keep water out.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-16, at 20:51:22 EDT, Jeff Kantor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What provides the weather seal at the deck?
>>>>>>>>> 
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