[Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin

Tue Dec 19 11:25:12 EST 2023

I went around the forward end of the CB stringer, and went up through the floor in the head and cut a hole through the bulkhead from below the galley sink.  As I recall, it was not difficult to feed it up through the floor in the head.  Here are a few more of photos that may give you a better idea. BTW, while everything was opened up, I scraped the bilge and painted with Interlux Bilge Cote. Be sure to use their primer first. I did the same in the Lazarette. The Rule pump is automatic so doesn't need a float switch. I recommend installing an on/off/auto switch, which I mounted on the panel of the forward battery compartment. JoeSent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> Date: 12/18/23  2:34 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin The boat normally doesn't have a "bow down" configuration and once thewater was pumped out it floats pretty level.i finally got a digital salinity meter (th#1 house battery was damaged andI have no idea what's in the water so i decided not to taste it0. In anyevent it is salt water, in fact the salinity is a bit higher than that inthe water that the boat is floating in...probably due to some evaporationsince it flooded in. Also, no new water came in during the torrential rainswe had this weekend.Regarding the bilge pump, did you drill holes for the drain hose throughthe stringers in the bilge or what?--ReubenReuben Mezrichcell: 410-499-8922Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, BostonOn Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 1:50 PM <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:> Reuben,> The molded portion under the V-berth area encloses the flotation foam.> Respite always had a bow down configuration relative to the waterline.> Don't know the cause, could have been water there or it was its normal> orientation. I don’t know how one could inspect in there. Stan or someone> on the list, Roger Pihlaja seems to be a good go to, but so is Peter> Nyberg, to ask. BTW, do you have much water in the anchor rode tray in the> V-berth?>> Joe>> -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Reuben Mezrich> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 10:19 AM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin>> Joe> I have a similar set up at the aft portion of the V-Berth except the> leaves on my boat are plywood. The holding tank is on the port side and the> lithium battery and its charger was placed on the starboard side by Charles> Gabriel (I have no idea how he got that 100 lb battery into that area).> But forward of that the floor of the V-berth seems to be fiberglass molded> into the bow, extending from the bow back to the compartment with the> holding and water tanks and then down to the hull of the boat. I don't see> a way to actually see the hull at the forward portion of the boat or rinse> out the salt water that I'm sure was there. (when I first got to the boat> when I was told it was sinking it was indeed "bow down" and hanging on its> lines.>> By the way, what I thought was Pressboard is actually Cement Board (found> a label on the back of one of the panels) and Wikeopedia tells me that is> "Cement board is a backer board made from cement slurry and fiberglass mesh> and is supposed to be unaffected by water. Charles Daniel suspects it was> put in by a previous owner before it was refurbished at General Boats and> left in place by Stan..I take that as good news.>> --Reuben> Reuben Mezrich> cell: 410-499-8922> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 4:41 PM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:>> > Reuben,  There should be a removable panel in the V berth. It serves> > as the aft portion beneath the V cushions. Mine was a sheet of lucite> > acrylic hinged in the middle creating two leaves to permit access to> > the fresh water tank and the seacock (which could be your culprit if> > you haven't checked it yet) for the head on the starboard side forward> > of the head and the black water holding tank on the port. There are> > just two screws holding it in place if you need to remove it, which> > you shouldn't. Lift one of the leaves and look in. Have a good> > flashlight. Any water in the forward section should drain aft to the> > CB area. BTW, I didn't mention the Rule low profile automatic bilge> > pump that I installed nicely below the inspection hatch forward of the> > CB. I ran a hose, 1" I think, over to the starboard side. I had to cut> > out thru the floor just in front of the galley. I installed a 'T' in> > the sink drain that I connected the bilge hose to. I did not install a> > anti siphon loop because I think the open sink drain serves the> > purpose. I could be wrong.JoeSent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an> > AT&T 5G smartphone> > -------- Original message --------From: Reuben Mezrich <> > reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> Date: 12/17/23  1:49 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The> > Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:> > [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin JoeNo new water entered the cabin> > or lazerette even with the considerable rainand wind so I'm convinced> > the water came from below...no more water seemsto be accumulating but> > I'll keep watching.How do I inspect under the V-Berth?Reuben Mezrichcell:> > 410-499-8922Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, BostonOn Sun, Dec> > 17,> > 2023 at 12:11 PM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:> With all the rain> > your now getting or about to get (east coast) water into> the cockpit> > will overwhelm the drainage if all drain holes are not>> > cleared/enlarged. Also water will overflow into the lazarrette> > underneath> the hatch.  It's probably too late now, but I followed a> > suggestion of a> Rhodie on the List and installed weatherstripping> > around the lazarette> opening to seal the gap between the opening and> > the hatch cover. I used a> soft(not foam) rubber stick-on w/s from my> > local hardware store.Also, this> is a good opportunity to determine up> > or down. If the cabin doesn't flood> after this storm, you'll know> > it's coming from "down"!Joe DempseyTrojan 42> MYM/V VoyagerSent via> > the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone> -------- Original> > message --------From: Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 12/17/23  8:45 AM  (GMT-05:00) To:> > The> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:>> > [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin I just bailed a ton of rain water.>> > Mostly in the laz but some made it into the cabin. Got the boat> > covered> just in time for today’s coastal storm.Scott & Rebecca sv> > Pantailaimon> > Sent> from my iPhone> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis> > Sent> <>> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:> > Hey Reuben,> What Patrick says.>> > Were your batteries OK?  Ponce dry and then paper towel> dry the bilge> > then> lay out some TP squares and check every hour or so.  I> know> > then> easier> > said> than done as you guys have a lot of rain right now. If> your> > said> seat> > drains> get plugged from those overhanging trees, it overflows> into> > drains> the> > laz, then> into the cabin.> > Chris G.> Xenos> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023> > at> > 6:54 PM PBR <> pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:>> >> Rueben,>> In nearly> > all of our boats> water in the lazarette can migrate slowly to the>>> bilge.> > Unlikely that> that much water came through that path but as I>>> > posted a few weeks ago,> check the hoses that funnel water from the> > cockpit>> seats through the> lazarette to the stern.  On my 1989 the> > flexible hoses>> were> cracked/brittle and just taking all the water> > from the seats into the>>> laz.>> Patrick>> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023> > at 3:18 PM Reuben Mezrich <> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>>> wrote:>> >>>> > This morning a friend called> > and> said my boat was sinking...When I got to>>> the boat there was> > and> about a> > foot> of water in the cabin (it was up to the>>> bottom of the> > foot> cushions)> > and the> boat was hanging from its lines (it was a>>> very low> > tide)...I borrowed a> pump and got most of the water>>> > out...checked>>> the two through hulls for> the head and the one in> > the lazerette and no>> leak>>> seen. inspected the> top of the> > centerboard trunk and no evidence of a>>> > leak>>> at any of the> visible screws on top (hard to see the two at> > leak>>> the>>>> > furthest aft). There> still appears to be a slow leak. There was> > also>>> > water>>> in the lazerette> but the lazerette seems to be separate from> > water>>> the> > rest of>>> the boat and no> idea how the water got there...There> > hasn't been much>> rain>>>> lately..boat was dry on Monday, which was> > the last time I checked it...>>>> We're having some storms here in> > Sarasota and the TowBoatUS guy says we>>>> really can't tow it till> > Tuesday>>> >>> Any thoughts on where else to look> for leaks. I> > haven't put any holes in>>> the boat..haven't gone aground>>>> Its a> > puzzle>>> >>> -->>> Reuben> > Mezrich>>> cell: 410-499-8922>>> Pelican> Cove in Sarasota and Back> > Mezrich>>> Bay,> > Boston>>> >>>> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was> > scrubbed...> > Name: -1243247750_IMG_20190412_1135280_2281377.jpg> > Type: image/jpeg> > Size: 2281377 bytes> > Desc: not available> > URL: <> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231217/72f80> > 1e0/attachment.jpg> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was> > scrubbed...> > Name: 516264662_IMG_20190727_1210023_655375.jpg> > Type: image/jpeg> > Size: 655375 bytes> > Desc: not available> > URL: <> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231217/72f80> > 1e0/attachment-0001.jpg> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was> > scrubbed...> > Name: 988855659_IMG_20210625_1624363_2408854.jpg> > Type: image/jpeg> > Size: 2408854 bytes> > Desc: not available> > URL: <> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231217/72f80> > 1e0/attachment-0002.jpg> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was> > scrubbed...> > Name: -428335862_IMG_20200310_1318198_1360716.jpg> > Type: image/jpeg> > Size: 1360716 bytes> > Desc: not available> > URL: <> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231217/72f80> > 1e0/attachment-0003.jpg> > >> >>>
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