[Rhodes22-list] Engine lift winch

Sun Jun 11 15:34:56 EDT 2023

Hi All,

When I bought the boat in 1987, S/V Dynamic Equilibrium came with a spring loaded parallelogram-style linkage motor mount from Garelick.  I used it for many years.  By 2010, the linkage pivot points were getting sloppy from wear.  Stan sold me a used manual GBI motor mount.  Here’s a picture of it.  I’ve been very happy with it.  It’s got something like 8:1 mechanical advantage with over a foot of vertical travel.  Raising the motor is nearly effortless.  One thing I like about this design, is you can stop it anywhere in it’s travel.  This can be very useful for motorsailing.  For example, on port tack, you can lower the motor all the way down, as shown in this photo.  Note how far below the waterline the lower unit is.  This will let you motor into pretty big waves without cavitation on port tack.  But, for starboard tack, having the motor this low might submerge the power head when the stern drops off a big wave.  So, you can raise the motor up until the power head is clear of the water.

The second picture shows some of the detail of the track that the motor mount rides on.  The tracks are pieces of aluminum U channel and the linear bearings are machined from PTFE.  I purchased my motor mount from Stan for instant gratification and to help support his business.  But, it doesn’t look like it would be too difficult to fabricate one for yourself from off the shelf pieces/parts.

When he had this motor mount available, I’m not sure why Stan ever went to the trouble and expense of offering an electric version.  This manual version certainly does the job for me.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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From: Mark Whipple<mailto:mark at whipplefamily.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 10:23 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine lift winch

My R22 came with a Saildrive, which I've removed. More about that in
another post.

I'm now in the process of installing the General Boats motor lift. I bought
it from Stan by driving down to North Carolina a while back. I was
originally leaning towards putting in the electric motor lift so I recently
did a lot of research in the email archives. Many boats had a Chicago
Electric lift from Harbor Freight. They no longer offer that brand,
but the Badlands
2500lb winch
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.harborfreight.com%2Fautomotive%2Fwinches%2Felectric-winches%2F2500-lb-atvutility-winch-with-wire-rope-and-wireless-remote-control-56258.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cff1d4d6bd3974391b6bb08db6a876d5d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638220902126452802%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xWlDnXHgjGXQc7hh1NKeMI2AOAJZlDSoEGZxh6d9CtE%3D&reserved=0<https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/winches/electric-winches/2500-lb-atvutility-winch-with-wire-rope-and-wireless-remote-control-56258.html>>
seems to be the replacement. That winch sells for $85 and has both wired
and wireless controls. Some owners also mentioned the Warn 2000lb winch
from Northern Tool
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.northerntool.com%2Fproducts%2Fwarn-12-volt-dc-powered-electric-utility-winch-2000-lb-capacity-galvanized-steel-rope-model-92000-44190&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cff1d4d6bd3974391b6bb08db6a876d5d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638220902126452802%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Gjf3%2BBiXE18g00a%2FjfZGFA4D03rs%2FYbquBceZAFMxcU%3D&reserved=0<https://www.northerntool.com/products/warn-12-volt-dc-powered-electric-utility-winch-2000-lb-capacity-galvanized-steel-rope-model-92000-44190>>
(Warn is not one of their house brands). That one sells for $150 and
appears to only have a wired remote.

After all that research (and sore muscles from sanding and painting the
lazarette) I'm now inclined to install the manual lift instead. *One
question for the group regarding the manual lift:* it seems like it's
important that the blocks are lined up on the center of the lift as much as
possible. Can someone tell me how to do so - and perhaps post some
pictures? I've seen pictures of manual lift arrangements but I'm not sure
just what I'm looking at regarding the arrangement of the blocks.

Thanks,
Mark

Boston, MA

2000 R22 *Luna Mia*

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 4:49 PM David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know the type, brand, or model of the 12V winch that powers
> the outboard engine lift? Mine has given 12 years of service but has quit.
> I hear a clicking sound so I think he problem is with the winch motor, not
> the connections.
>
> I'll appreciate any help from the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave B
> s/v Sea Cloud
> Old Greenwich, CT
>
>
>
>

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