[Rhodes22-list] head ventilation (Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4576), Issue 1
peter klappert
koatimundi100 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 3 13:51:31 EDT 2024
I sent this at the end of July but haven’t seen it. In case I screwed up
when sending (I frequently screw up things digital), here it is again .
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 4:25 PM peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I was the first—possibly the only—Rhodie who substituted an Airhead
> composting head for the marine toilet and holding tank. (My R22 is kept on
> a lift at my dock: I didn’t want to have to find a pump out station.) It
> has a vent tube with a small computer fan, tho I doubt that affords much
> head ventilation.
> But I also had Stan install a solar fan (rechargeable batteries) in
> the deck over the v-berth, way up in the bow. It pushes a great deal of air
> through the whole cabin. With the sliding panel between the v-berth and
> head pushed open (ie to port) it keeps the head well-ventilated and
>
indeed, it ventilates the whole cabin).
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> *>>>>>>>>> *[image: Sailboat on Messenger]*<<<<<<<<<*
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> *Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*
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>> 1. Re: Head ventilation (Scott Andrews)
>> 2. Re: Head ventilation (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>> 3. Re: Boom Rigging Question (Michael McKay)
>> 4. Re: Head ventilation (Scott Andrews)
>> 5. Re: Boom Rigging Question (PBR)
>> 6. Re: Boom Rigging Question (Mike)
>> 7. Re: Head ventilation (Mary Lou Troy)
>> 8. Fwd: A Conversation with Stan Spitzer (Michael McKay)
>> 9. Re: Boom Rigging Question (Todd Tavares)
>> 10. Re: How to replace forward lower chainplates? (Graham Stewart)
>> 11. Re: How to replace forward lower chainplates? (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>> 12. Re: A Conversation with Stan Spitzer (Frank Goldsmith)
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:05:22 -0400
>> From: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head ventilation
>> Message-ID: <216AD1F0-4896-4812-9618-48135BA84B45 at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Here?s my friend Don?s hatches
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2024, at 10:56?AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Stand up head sounds nice! I lowered my head floor by 1" when I
>> rebuilt the
>> > interior but I didn't go as low as silver heels cuz I have multiple
>> bilge
>> > pumps. More headroom would be nice
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 10:00?PM Michael D. Weisner <Mweisner at ebsmed.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's known as a "stand up head" for just that reason.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> >> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, July 27, 2024 9:32 pm, Kenwood _ wrote:
>> >>> Hey all! As I'm starting to attack the quality of life mods that I
>> want
>> >> to
>> >>> do in my boat I'm noticing that your more modern boats have some stuff
>> >> I'm
>> >>> really jealous of!
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm looking at a lot of ventilation options for the head but they're
>> all
>> >>> kind of undersized or made for RVs. The new boats seem to have a hatch
>> >>> over
>> >>> the head! That's really awesome, but I can't seem to find hatches that
>> >> are
>> >>> that small it's not a very large space to put in a hatch and I'm
>> worried
>> >>> about cutting away too much of the roof.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anybody have hatch dimensions or perhaps know where they can be
>> >>> sourced? A hatch that could be opened Right above the head would be
>> >> better
>> >>> than any RV fan ventilator I can think of and it might even give you
>> some
>> >>> headroom! Thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:23:10 +0000
>> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head ventilation
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> Unfortunately, we don?t have Stan available anymore to ask. I would like
>> to ask him if he did anything to reinforce the cabin roof when GBI
>> implemented those 2 opening hatches. Those 2 hatches together represent a
>> lot of cabin roof structure removed around the area loaded by the mast.
>> Was the cabin roof so over designed initially; that, 2 big holes can be cut
>> into it without compromising the structure? If Stan had to reinforce the
>> cabin roof with something like C fiber; then, he never mentioned it in any
>> advertisement that I saw. I wish there was someone to ask re this issue
>> because my ?calibrated engineer?s eye? says ?too weak?. Scott, I advise
>> you to proceed cautiously, because the cabin roof would be hard to fix if
>> you weaken it too much.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2024, at 6:05?PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Here?s my friend Don?s hatches
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>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 28, 2024, at 10:56?AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?Stand up head sounds nice! I lowered my head floor by 1" when I
>> rebuilt the
>> >> interior but I didn't go as low as silver heels cuz I have multiple
>> bilge
>> >> pumps. More headroom would be nice
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 10:00?PM Michael D. Weisner <
>> Mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It's known as a "stand up head" for just that reason.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, July 27, 2024 9:32 pm, Kenwood _ wrote:
>> >>>>> Hey all! As I'm starting to attack the quality of life mods that I
>> want
>> >>> to
>> >>>> do in my boat I'm noticing that your more modern boats have some
>> stuff
>> >>> I'm
>> >>>> really jealous of!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm looking at a lot of ventilation options for the head but they're
>> all
>> >>>> kind of undersized or made for RVs. The new boats seem to have a
>> hatch
>> >>>> over
>> >>>> the head! That's really awesome, but I can't seem to find hatches
>> that
>> >>> are
>> >>>> that small it's not a very large space to put in a hatch and I'm
>> worried
>> >>>> about cutting away too much of the roof.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does anybody have hatch dimensions or perhaps know where they can be
>> >>>> sourced? A hatch that could be opened Right above the head would be
>> >>> better
>> >>>> than any RV fan ventilator I can think of and it might even give you
>> some
>> >>>> headroom! Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:11:15 -0400
>> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Rigging Question
>> Message-ID: <3E65320C-991D-4057-B001-D79B5C544C06 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Mike, on my boat the topping lift runs down outside the mast to a block
>> on the port cabin top near the hand rail and then back through a cam cleat
>> at the cockpit, similar to the jib furling line.
>>
>>
>> Michael McKay
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2024, at 7:35?PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Mike,
>> >
>> > I?ve never understood why Stan made the boom topping lift so complex.
>> On my Rhodes 22, I just attached a 1/4? piece of double braid to the
>> masthead. I ran this line directly to the end of the boom and attached it
>> to a cam cleat mounted on the end of the boom. Now, if you want to adjust
>> the topping lift, it?s located right above the helmsman?s head. This is at
>> least as convenient and ergonomic as the GBI setup and it?s lighter with
>> less windage too. Think about it before you go to a lot of trouble and
>> effort to rebuild the factory setup.
>> >
>> > Roger Pihlaja
>> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> > 1978. Sanford, MI
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 28, 2024, at 4:30?PM, Mike via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?Hello everyone!
>> >>
>> >> My name is Mike and I've had my Rhodes 22 for almost 9 years now.
>> Unfortunately, circumstances kept it in storage for almost of all of that
>> time.
>> >> I was finally able to get it out this Summer after the last, two-year
>> delay waiting for sails, then having to replace the headsail furler, and
>> then having to have the sails redone (long story, not the point).
>> >> I've figured most of the rigging out, with the exception of the boom
>> lift. I read the previous comments, but the way mine is done doesn't make
>> any sense.
>> >> I don't know if the shop messed something up (probably) or if it's
>> just rigged weird. There's a lot of peculiarities with this boat because it
>> was Stan's rental until I bought it in 2015.
>> >> Many of you have probably sailed on it before buying your Rhodes. It's
>> an older Rhodes with some modern additions and kind of a one-off.
>> >> The line from the end of the boom runs up through the sheaves at the
>> top of the mast and back down the outside of it, as described in the
>> manual. However, the line then goes through the boom-carriage into the IMF
>> rotating shaft.
>> >> I am attaching a poorly-drawn representation so that you can visualize
>> it.
>> >> Furling and unfurling the mainsail, if I remember correctly and it's
>> been a long time, used to be accomplished with the blue and black lines on
>> the bottom of the boom.
>> >> At some point, part of the boom-carriage broke (hoping that I can
>> still order parts?) and so the front, black line goes to nothing and is
>> routed thru nothing, currently... which complicates trying to figure things
>> out.
>> >> Routing that line through the IMF shaft and to the carriage would make
>> sense, but the line seems a bit short and space seems tight. "Seems..."
>> >> Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Mike Blagg
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:21:20 -0400
>> From: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>
>> To: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head ventilation
>> Message-ID: <8602DCF2-A4C3-4B30-AAD8-21C7857737E0 at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Greetings all, Roger is quite right about the load on the cabin and a
>> compression post had to be added to the boat pictured with the hatches.
>> Scott A.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2024, at 6:23?PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Hi All,
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, we don?t have Stan available anymore to ask. I would
>> like to ask him if he did anything to reinforce the cabin roof when GBI
>> implemented those 2 opening hatches. Those 2 hatches together represent a
>> lot of cabin roof structure removed around the area loaded by the mast.
>> Was the cabin roof so over designed initially; that, 2 big holes can be cut
>> into it without compromising the structure? If Stan had to reinforce the
>> cabin roof with something like C fiber; then, he never mentioned it in any
>> advertisement that I saw. I wish there was someone to ask re this issue
>> because my ?calibrated engineer?s eye? says ?too weak?. Scott, I advise
>> you to proceed cautiously, because the cabin roof would be hard to fix if
>> you weaken it too much.
>> >
>> > Roger Pihlaja
>> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> > 1978. Sanford, MI
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 28, 2024, at 6:05?PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?Here?s my friend Don?s hatches
>> >> -------------- next part --------------
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>> >> -------------- next part --------------
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2024, at 10:56?AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ?Stand up head sounds nice! I lowered my head floor by 1" when I
>> rebuilt the
>> >>> interior but I didn't go as low as silver heels cuz I have multiple
>> bilge
>> >>> pumps. More headroom would be nice
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 10:00?PM Michael D. Weisner <
>> Mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's known as a "stand up head" for just that reason.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> >>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sat, July 27, 2024 9:32 pm, Kenwood _ wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hey all! As I'm starting to attack the quality of life mods that I
>> want
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>> do in my boat I'm noticing that your more modern boats have some
>> stuff
>> >>>> I'm
>> >>>>> really jealous of!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm looking at a lot of ventilation options for the head but
>> they're all
>> >>>>> kind of undersized or made for RVs. The new boats seem to have a
>> hatch
>> >>>>> over
>> >>>>> the head! That's really awesome, but I can't seem to find hatches
>> that
>> >>>> are
>> >>>>> that small it's not a very large space to put in a hatch and I'm
>> worried
>> >>>>> about cutting away too much of the roof.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Does anybody have hatch dimensions or perhaps know where they can be
>> >>>>> sourced? A hatch that could be opened Right above the head would be
>> >>>> better
>> >>>>> than any RV fan ventilator I can think of and it might even give
>> you some
>> >>>>> headroom! Thanks!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:22:36 -0400
>> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Rigging Question
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> CAJGJx+BF3gK+n0Q1_dWqC21aAq4RY+pCt+aZ1DHXGor6YFvrvA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Mike,
>> I don't think there is any reason why the topping lift should go anywhere
>> near the boom carriage. I have experience with two boats and it just runs
>> from the boom end to top of mast, back down to a turning block on the
>> cabin
>> top, then to a cam cleat near the back edge of the cabin top.
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 5:15?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I?ve never understood why Stan made the boom topping lift so complex.
>> On
>> > my Rhodes 22, I just attached a 1/4? piece of double braid to the
>> > masthead. I ran this line directly to the end of the boom and attached
>> it
>> > to a cam cleat mounted on the end of the boom. Now, if you want to
>> adjust
>> > the topping lift, it?s located right above the helmsman?s head. This
>> is at
>> > least as convenient and ergonomic as the GBI setup and it?s lighter with
>> > less windage too. Think about it before you go to a lot of trouble and
>> > effort to rebuild the factory setup.
>> >
>> > Roger Pihlaja
>> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> > 1978. Sanford, MI
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Jul 28, 2024, at 4:30?PM, Mike via Rhodes22-list <
>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > ?Hello everyone!
>> > >
>> > > My name is Mike and I've had my Rhodes 22 for almost 9 years now.
>> > Unfortunately, circumstances kept it in storage for almost of all of
>> that
>> > time.
>> > > I was finally able to get it out this Summer after the last, two-year
>> > delay waiting for sails, then having to replace the headsail furler, and
>> > then having to have the sails redone (long story, not the point).
>> > > I've figured most of the rigging out, with the exception of the boom
>> > lift. I read the previous comments, but the way mine is done doesn't
>> make
>> > any sense.
>> > > I don't know if the shop messed something up (probably) or if it's
>> just
>> > rigged weird. There's a lot of peculiarities with this boat because it
>> was
>> > Stan's rental until I bought it in 2015.
>> > > Many of you have probably sailed on it before buying your Rhodes. It's
>> > an older Rhodes with some modern additions and kind of a one-off.
>> > > The line from the end of the boom runs up through the sheaves at the
>> top
>> > of the mast and back down the outside of it, as described in the manual.
>> > However, the line then goes through the boom-carriage into the IMF
>> rotating
>> > shaft.
>> > > I am attaching a poorly-drawn representation so that you can visualize
>> > it.
>> > > Furling and unfurling the mainsail, if I remember correctly and it's
>> > been a long time, used to be accomplished with the blue and black lines
>> on
>> > the bottom of the boom.
>> > > At some point, part of the boom-carriage broke (hoping that I can
>> still
>> > order parts?) and so the front, black line goes to nothing and is routed
>> > thru nothing, currently... which complicates trying to figure things
>> out.
>> > > Routing that line through the IMF shaft and to the carriage would make
>> > sense, but the line seems a bit short and space seems tight. "Seems..."
>> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Mike Blagg
>> > > -------------- next part --------------
>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>> > > Name: sail rigging.jpg
>> > > Type: image/jpeg
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>> > > URL: <
>> >
>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240728/af2109cf/attachment.jpg
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Mike <boon_doggy at yahoo.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Rigging Question
>> Message-ID: <1962400431.850453.1722256130953 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> It didn't make any sense to me either and the more I thought about it,
>> the more I think the shop just rigged it wrong.The forward (black) line on
>> the boom car would make more sense running through the holes in the furler
>> in the mast, but I've got to order a new car before I can mess with it.
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 8:22 AM, PBR<pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> I don't think there is any reason why the topping lift should go anywhere
>> near the boom carriage.? I have experience with two boats and it just runs
>> from the boom end to top of mast, back down to a turning block on the
>> cabin
>> top, then to a cam cleat near the back edge of the cabin top.
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:05:44 -0400
>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head ventilation
>> Message-ID: <bbf164be-7ee0-4fa7-997a-09d0476d2bbd at atlanticbb.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Just a note here that there are a number of different configurations of
>> R22s. I believe that most were built with a compression post. On ours it
>> was built into the structure of the semi-enclosed head. When we bought
>> the boat (a 1991) to be refurbished in 1998 it did not have overhead
>> hatches so we asked Stan about putting a single hatch over the head
>> area. He said there was no structural problem doing it so that is what
>> we had done.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> ex 1991 R22 (refurbished 1998)
>> now Rosborough RF-246?? Tara
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>> On 7/29/2024 7:21 AM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list wrote:
>> > Greetings all, Roger is quite right about the load on the cabin and a
>> compression post had to be added to the boat pictured with the hatches.
>> > Scott A.
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 28, 2024, at 6:23?PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, we don?t have Stan available anymore to ask. I would
>> like to ask him if he did anything to reinforce the cabin roof when GBI
>> implemented those 2 opening hatches. Those 2 hatches together represent a
>> lot of cabin roof structure removed around the area loaded by the mast.
>> Was the cabin roof so over designed initially; that, 2 big holes can be cut
>> into it without compromising the structure? If Stan had to reinforce the
>> cabin roof with something like C fiber; then, he never mentioned it in any
>> advertisement that I saw. I wish there was someone to ask re this issue
>> because my ?calibrated engineer?s eye? says ?too weak?. Scott, I advise
>> you to proceed cautiously, because the cabin roof would be hard to fix if
>> you weaken it too much.
>> >>
>> >> Roger Pihlaja
>> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> >> 1978. Sanford, MI
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 28, 2024, at 6:05?PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ?Here?s my friend Don?s hatches
>> >>> -------------- next part --------------
>> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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>> >
>> >>> -------------- next part --------------
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2024, at 10:56?AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> ?Stand up head sounds nice! I lowered my head floor by 1" when I
>> rebuilt the
>> >>>> interior but I didn't go as low as silver heels cuz I have multiple
>> bilge
>> >>>> pumps. More headroom would be nice
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 10:00?PM Michael D. Weisner <
>> Mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It's known as a "stand up head" for just that reason.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Mike
>> >>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> >>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Sat, July 27, 2024 9:32 pm, Kenwood _ wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hey all! As I'm starting to attack the quality of life mods that
>> I want
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>> do in my boat I'm noticing that your more modern boats have some
>> stuff
>> >>>>> I'm
>> >>>>>> really jealous of!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm looking at a lot of ventilation options for the head but
>> they're all
>> >>>>>> kind of undersized or made for RVs. The new boats seem to have a
>> hatch
>> >>>>>> over
>> >>>>>> the head! That's really awesome, but I can't seem to find hatches
>> that
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>>> that small it's not a very large space to put in a hatch and I'm
>> worried
>> >>>>>> about cutting away too much of the roof.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Does anybody have hatch dimensions or perhaps know where they can
>> be
>> >>>>>> sourced? A hatch that could be opened Right above the head would be
>> >>>>> better
>> >>>>>> than any RV fan ventilator I can think of and it might even give
>> you some
>> >>>>>> headroom! Thanks!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:16:08 -0400
>> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: A Conversation with Stan Spitzer
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>> I had read this previously, but it just appeared again today in my inbox.
>> Pure Stan!
>>
>> Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
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>> Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:11?PM
>> Subject: A Conversation with Stan Spitzer
>> To: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
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>> of General Boats (Rhodes 22)
>>
>> Jul 29
>>
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>> *I had the opportunity to talk with Stan Spitzer, owner of General Boats
>> <
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>> >,
>> in January of 2016 at his General Boats Plant in Edenton, North Carolina.
>> General Boats has been in the sailboat business since 1959 and is best
>> known for the Rhodes 22. Stan is 90 years old and continues to manage the
>> day to day operations of General Boats.?Jerry Thompson*
>> <
>> https://substack.com/redirect/990e10b3-29d0-430d-948b-222a780777c4?j=eyJ1IjoiMXM2anh5In0.idUYEqiG8vYXmLoHe42WspKQfXHbopl4fq_FzkMXn20
>> >
>>
>> *Why and when did you break into the sailboat business?*
>>
>> I enjoyed sailing and it seemed like a good business to get into. I
>> started
>> by thinking about names. I thought an Atom line of sailboats would be
>> nice?Atom, 20, Atom 25 etc. In those days, the late 40s, the bomb had been
>> dropped and atomic energy was a big deal. Sometime later I bumped into a
>> friend from high school who had served in France during the war. He told
>> me
>> that they were doing great things with sailboats in France and why don?t
>> we
>> import some? I said sure, what have I got to lose? We kept our jobs and
>> formed a company called Nordica Corporation. He flew to France and made
>> arrangements to bring back a sailboat. The first we imported was a
>> Corsaire
>> designed by Herbulot, a famous French designer. It sailed well, but did
>> not
>> hold up. It was made of plywood and the French were behind the United
>> States in technology. I took one to the New York Boat Show which at the
>> time was the only boat show going. And it was gigantic. I was in
>> advertising so I wrote the copy and made up a brochure. Time magazine came
>> by our booth and wrote us up. The show was mostly motorboats with very few
>> sailboats?sailboats where just not that big at the time. My partners had a
>> meeting after the show and told me that I was out. Something about me and
>> my style didn?t sit well with them so they returned my initial $6,000
>> investment and I was out of Nordica Corporation. Years later I ran into
>> one
>> of my old partners and he told me to not feel bad about being thrown out
>> as
>> they went out of business shortly after kicking me out and lost all their
>> investment.
>>
>> *How did you move on from that disappointing start?*
>>
>> Well, I was hooked after that first boat show. But I had to start from
>> scratch. The graphic artist I worked with at the agency said he liked
>> sailboats, so together we formed General Boats in 1959 keeping our day
>> jobs
>> of course. This was way before Hunter and Catalina and we even beat O?Day
>> into the business. About this time sailing was starting to take off so our
>> timing was good.
>>
>> *How did you decide on the name General Boats?*
>>
>> I always thought big. So I looked around and said I?ll take the best name
>> I
>> can find. There was General Motors, General Electric, General Dynamics so
>> I
>> thought I would try General Boats. I was afraid somebody already had it,
>> but they didn?t. It was free so we had our name.
>> <
>> https://substack.com/redirect/e79f0a65-04fa-4e18-a533-f91a45c96834?j=eyJ1IjoiMXM2anh5In0.idUYEqiG8vYXmLoHe42WspKQfXHbopl4fq_FzkMXn20
>> >
>>
>> *What was your first boat?*
>>
>> I sought out a naval architect I had heard of, Nils Lucander. Nils did not
>> have a name in those days as he was just starting out. So I asked him to
>> design a sailboat and he said sure I?ll do it and he did it for
>> practically
>> nothing. And so we came out with the Picnic 17. I wrote the copy for a
>> brochure. The graphic artist I worked with did the artwork and it was a
>> beautiful brochure. But the boat wasn?t so hot. From my point of view I
>> wanted it to do everything to appeal to a broad market. We headlined it as
>> a sailboat, motorboat, ski boat, fishing boat. And I found out people who
>> came to the show didn?t know what to buy so they brought their experts
>> with
>> them who were sailors. And they would say it cannot be all those things; a
>> sailboat is a sailboat and a motorboat is a motorboat. I was claiming too
>> much.
>>
>> *Did you produce the Picnic 17?*
>>
>> No, producing as that was the last thing I wanted to do. I was smart
>> enough
>> to know not to get involved with building the boat, let somebody else do
>> that. I was approached by Lofland Sail-Craft out of Wichita, Kansas. They
>> sought me out and said they would like to build the Picnic 17 for me.
>> Francis Lofland was a lovely guy and began producing the Picnic 17 for me.
>> But I couldn?t get enough out of him. He had his own business building the
>> Snipe and other boats, so I was at the bottom of the list. So I went to
>> another company. I went to Ray Greene who was building the Rebel 16 and a
>> line of boats. He started building the Picnic 17 for me, but the same
>> thing
>> happened: I couldn?t get enough. Ray Greene didn?t turn out a good boat.
>> His own boats were okay, but I was not his priority. It was hard to get
>> them to put their heart and soul into a product that wasn?t theirs. I went
>> to another company in Nova Scotia, Industrial Shipping Company Limited,
>> and
>> they were wonderful. They got into building the Picnic 17 and built them
>> fast and very well. But then the guy I was dealing with there, George
>> McGovern, who was a very nice guy, died, ending my deal with that company
>> as he was the guy who wanted to build the Picnic for me. It was one thing
>> after another. So I decided at that point if I was going to stay in this
>> business I have got to make a boat that has a reputation behind it. Nils
>> Lucander would become a big name eventually, but at that point customers
>> would ask who the Picnic was designed by and I would tell them Nils
>> Lucander, but they never heard of him. So I had to get a name behind me.
>>
>> *How many Picnic 17s did you sell?*
>>
>> We ended up selling 350 which encouraged us to stay in the business, but
>> we
>> needed a name. Roger McGregor saw the Picnic 17 at a show and told me he
>> liked the notion of a sailboat/motorboat. This was before he was building
>> sailboats, but he put that idea back in his mind and eventually produced
>> his own line of motorsailors. We became very good friends over the years.
>> He was a very smart guy, top in his class at Stanford.
>>
>> *What came after the Picnic 17?*
>>
>> I needed something new. The naval architects in those days didn?t charge
>> based upon their reputations but by the size of the boat they were
>> designing. At that time the number one reputation belonged to Phillip
>> Rhodes. So I decided that?s easy, you start at the top and when he says no
>> you work your way down. His office was on Lexington Avenue also in New
>> York
>> City where I was living. So I made up some sketches and went and knocked
>> on
>> his door and he answered. There were lots of people working there, it was
>> a
>> big firm, but he answered the door. He looked down on me and said ?What do
>> you want?? I said I would like you to design a boat for me. I showed him
>> the sketches. At that time he would get a call from the Rockefellers
>> saying
>> hey Phil I need a 55-foot yacht, and he would design it for them. But
>> there
>> I was with sketches of a 22-foot boat and here is this guy a very well
>> known, famous naval architect. And he said, ?You know what, I have not
>> designed a smaller boat in a long time, I think I want to do this.? I
>> almost fell over. And I worked with him a year in his office and I learned
>> a lot about designing. Of course he would turn it over to somebody else
>> and
>> he would walk around like a school teacher making suggestions, changes and
>> corrections.
>>
>> *Was it expensive to have the top naval architect of the time design your
>> boat?*
>>
>> There were two ways you could work with Phillip Rhodes. You could say it
>> was your product and pay a royalty on each hull produced, or you could say
>> I?ll commission you and pay you a flat fee and it is my product. I said
>> I?d
>> rather own it outright and he said fine.
>>
>> *The Rhodes 22 has a very unique hull flare. Was that your idea or
>> Phillip?s?*
>>
>> I was always looking at other boats and one was an Olympic racing boat,
>> the
>> 505. It had what was called an upside down wineglass shape to the hull.
>> And
>> so I wondered about that flare and started thinking about it from an
>> engineering point of view. And it began to dawn on me it had a lot of
>> advantages. First, it had a built in hiking seat. You could sit out on the
>> flare beyond the hull itself, you could carry more sail and keep the boat
>> flat, I liked that idea. Then I thought it also makes a very dry hull. In
>> a
>> regular sailboat the waves break over the side and into the cockpit, a
>> wave
>> hits the flare and goes out away from the cockpit?very dry. I looked at it
>> more and recognized that because it was a compound curve instead of a
>> simple curve, it would be very strong. So using the same fiberglass the
>> other guys use I would have a much stronger hull. The sketches I gave to
>> Phil had the flare and he told me he liked what I was doing, but he didn?t
>> like the flare, ?That?s a motorboat, doesn?t look like a sailboat.? He
>> didn?t like it, but I insisted and he said it was my money so I could go
>> for it. After working on it a while Phil said the flare was growing on
>> him.
>> By the time he finished he said he liked it.
>>
>> *I have heard the boat referred to as the Rhodes Continental.*
>>
>> When I was first thinking about names the Lincoln Continental was a very
>> popular automobile, so I tried Rhodes Continental, two big names. But I
>> changed that not too long after to the Rhodes 22.
>>
>> *How was the Rhodes 22 received by the public?*
>>
>> I had a model made and brought it to the New York boat show, and when
>> people saw it they either didn?t like it because it looked like a
>> motorboat
>> or they loved it; it was extremes. I didn?t need the whole market, I just
>> needed a piece. It came out for $2,500. I put a big red ribbon around it.
>> You got the boat, the sails, the cushions, the lines, everything. With all
>> other sailboats everything was extra, the price sheet on sailboats in
>> those
>> days was pages. I came out with a price for the whole package and that
>> worked. I started taking orders.
>>
>> *What year was that?*
>>
>> Phil designed the boat in 1968 and we began having them produced in 1970.
>>
>> *What do you most enjoy about the sailboat business?*
>>
>> The customers. My customers have all been wonderful. Well, once there was
>> a
>> guy who was a pain in the neck. He came to my office and I sat him down
>> and
>> got out my checkbook and started writing. He said what are you doing? I
>> said I?m giving you your money back. He said I don?t want the money; I
>> want
>> your boat. So I told him to stop being such a pain in the neck and he
>> agreed. And there was one other guy who liked the boat and bought it, but
>> came back and said his family didn?t take to it and asked if I would take
>> it back. I said yes I?ll give you all of your money back. He said you?ll
>> give all my money back? I said sure. I don?t want anybody sailing the boat
>> who isn?t happy with it. I always tell my customers that they are our
>> sales
>> force. We don?t sell through dealers. So you?ve got to be happy with the
>> boat. If you are not happy, I?m not going to let you keep it.
>> <
>> https://substack.com/redirect/b60057d0-8eb7-4aa2-a1b5-0b8cc1130f1b?j=eyJ1IjoiMXM2anh5In0.idUYEqiG8vYXmLoHe42WspKQfXHbopl4fq_FzkMXn20
>> >
>>
>> *How many Rhodes 22s have been built?*
>>
>> 2,500. That is not an exact number as through the years we lost track of a
>> few, but at least 2,500.
>>
>> *Tell me about your recycled boats?*
>>
>> As the sales of new boats dropped off I started thinking of ways to make
>> up
>> for it. So I came up with the recycled boat program. We would purchase
>> older hulls, go completely over them, and sell them for much less than a
>> new boat. And they look and perform like new boats. I have a boat out in
>> the yard now that is 30 years old and a customer the other day thought it
>> was new. The recycled boats kept us in business. But it was a double-edged
>> sword as it hurt further the new boat business. But, we are still in
>> business.
>>
>> *Are you the only builder that has a recycle program?*
>>
>> To my knowledge, yes. The reason it worked is that we sold direct. It
>> would
>> not work if you sold through dealers, which most builders do.
>>
>> *Did you go to Annapolis this year?*
>>
>> Yes, we were at the first show in1970 and have not missed a single show.
>>
>> *You have shown at every Annapolis Boat Show?*
>>
>> Yes, we?ve worked our way up from being way in the rear end of the show to
>> what I call the prime corner location. We have shown at 45 shows and hope
>> to make 50. *?SCA?*
>>
>> *Stan Spitzer and the Rhodes 22 have a very strong following of owners,
>> known as Rhodies, who are fiercely loyal to Stan and the Rhodes 22. Stan
>> is
>> still selling new and recycled Rhodes 22s at his plant in Edenton, North
>> Carolina. *
>>
>> *Jerry Thompson is an Information Systems professional who works and lives
>> in eastern North Carolina. He learned to sail over 25 years ago at the
>> Armed Forces Recreation Center, Lake Chiemsee, Germany. North Carolina?s
>> milder winters keep Jerry on the water year round.*
>>
>> First appeared in issue #109
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:05:34 -0400
>> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>> To: Mike <boon_doggy at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Rigging Question
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> CAB-twMOXo8A2NnK5tEJ7EuTAc5BeGgmx2O0hfad_cBx8B_0oMQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Perhaps the previous owner tucked the loose end into the goose neck
>> fitting, so it was not flapping loose during transport?
>>
>> Todd T.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024, 2:25 PM Mike via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> > It didn't make any sense to me either and the more I thought about it,
>> the
>> > more I think the shop just rigged it wrong.The forward (black) line on
>> the
>> > boom car would make more sense running through the holes in the furler
>> in
>> > the mast, but I've got to order a new car before I can mess with it.
>> >
>> > Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 8:22 AM, PBR<pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Mike,
>> > I don't think there is any reason why the topping lift should go
>> anywhere
>> > near the boom carriage. I have experience with two boats and it just
>> runs
>> > from the boom end to top of mast, back down to a turning block on the
>> cabin
>> > top, then to a cam cleat near the back edge of the cabin top.
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:16:18 +0000
>> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How to replace forward lower chainplates?
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> SA1P222MB11407E7E6406E1B6B860EAE2F5B02 at SA1P222MB1140.NAMP222.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> The chain plate is a bent stainless-steel tang. Mine was held in place
>> with a single screw into the plywood core of the cabin top. I have attached
>> a picture of the chainplate. Knowing the width, you should be able to
>> calculate pretty accurately where the screw would be. Removing a section of
>> the liner should allow you to remove the screw without needing to create a
>> large hole.
>>
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Rhodes 22
>> Agile, 1976
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 4:59 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How to replace forward lower chainplates?
>>
>> Hi Rhodies,
>>
>> I damaged one of my forward lower chainplates and need to replace it.
>>
>> It is evidently attached to something between the inner and outer
>> fiberglass skins, so my plan would be to cut an access hole from the inside.
>>
>> Can you provide any guidance about how best to approach this project?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Mike McKay
>> S/V Liber 2006/2108
>> Allatoona Lake, GA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:47:01 +0000
>> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How to replace forward lower chainplates?
>> Message-ID:
>> <
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>>
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>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> One of the first things I replaced when I bought my boat back in 1987
>> were the four lower chainplates. There is no way to inspect the factory
>> OEM lower chainplates. Sooner or later, water is going to infiltrate into
>> the plywood core, causing it to rot. This is easily fixed by installing 4
>> Beckson 4-1/2" white screw-out deck plates (Beckson P/N: DP40-W, Defender
>> Marine C/N: 941619, $17.36 each + S&H) thru the cabin liner. With these
>> inspection plates installed, you can thru bolt the lower chainplates thru
>> the outer cabin wall and easily inspect them whenever you wish. I do not
>> trust wood screws into the plywood core for this heavily loaded component,
>> especially not when the fix is so easy. Just bite the bullet and do this
>> upgrade. You'll never have to worry about it again.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 1978 Sanford, MI
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 10:16 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How to replace forward lower chainplates?
>>
>> The chain plate is a bent stainless-steel tang. Mine was held in place
>> with a single screw into the plywood core of the cabin top. I have attached
>> a picture of the chainplate. Knowing the width, you should be able to
>> calculate pretty accurately where the screw would be. Removing a section of
>> the liner should allow you to remove the screw without needing to create a
>> large hole.
>>
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Rhodes 22
>> Agile, 1976
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 4:59 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How to replace forward lower chainplates?
>>
>> Hi Rhodies,
>>
>> I damaged one of my forward lower chainplates and need to replace it.
>>
>> It is evidently attached to something between the inner and outer
>> fiberglass skins, so my plan would be to cut an access hole from the inside.
>>
>> Can you provide any guidance about how best to approach this project?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Mike McKay
>> S/V Liber 2006/2108
>> Allatoona Lake, GA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:58:29 -0400
>> From: Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A Conversation with Stan Spitzer
>> Message-ID: <504CE75E-0E2C-4599-A9E1-BCB7C09CB1F5 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Thanks for this ? a joy to read again. Vintage Stan ? you can just hear
>> him speaking.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 29, 2024, at 12:16?PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I had read this previously, but it just appeared again today in my
>> inbox.
>> > Pure Stan!
>> >
>> > Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > From: from Small Craft Advisor <smallcraftadvisor at substack.com>
>> > Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:11?PM
>> > Subject: A Conversation with Stan Spitzer
>> > To: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> >
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