[Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin

Sat Jan 27 18:11:29 EST 2024

 Reuben,  Although there are blocks under the keel, I understand that the weight of the boat needs to be on the jack stands.
Don SimonsOld Forge, NY
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 01:35:24 PM EST, Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote:  

 So my boat finally got hauled (Holidays got in the way) and I'm now able to
see the keel. As seen in the image about 2 inches of the aft portion hang
down below the fixed portion of the keel....is this normal
[image: image.png]
Reuben Mezrich
cell: 410-499-8922
Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 6:49 PM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mike
> Great point but....
> The same argument would be obtained with tasting the water. I'm not sure,
> given your argument, how you could ever determine the source of the water
> in the bilge
> I"ve had the boat 3 years now and never had even a drop of water in the
> bilge.
> We had torrential rains this weekend and no new water collected in the
> bilge.
> Its a puzzle
> --Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> cell: 410-499-8922
> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Reuben,
>>
>> Testing the bilge for the presence of salt using a salinity meter sounded
>> great until I thought about it a bit more.
>>
>> If salt water had ever been in the bilge, there would be salt left after
>> evaporation of the water. When a new source of water filled the bilge, the
>> dried salt would contaminate the water, making it appear to have come from
>> a leak below the waterline. This could explain why the salinity was greater
>> than that of the body of water within which the boat floats. The salinity
>> test may not have ruled out rain water intrusion.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:48 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin
>>
>> Ric
>> I’m liking your sabotage theory more and more (I did win some races last
>> week). I measured the salinity and its seawater and besides we had
>> torrential rain this weekend and no additional water came in.
>> It’s time to remove that step and look at the center board trunk more
>> carefully Reuben Mezrich
>> Cell:410-499-8922
>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay in Boston
>>
>> > On Dec 20, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > FRUSTRATING, RIGHT?
>> > I’m thinking rain water or sabotage.
>> > I’m having trouble with the idea that the  cap could leak that much -
>> and then not leak at all.
>> > Attached are photos of what happens when too much pressure is put on
>> the centerboard cap.
>> > When i inherited my ’84 rhodes, it had  a crack in the cap right above
>> the pivot pin.
>> > Obviously from the CB hitting the cap from the underside.
>> > It leaked a little - about a quart or two per day.
>> > I simply fiberglassed the crack and the leak stopped In the fall of
>> > 2019, I retrieved the boat onto the trailer and it was initially too
>> far back so I relaunched to move it forward.
>> > I did not realize that a helper had released the CB pendant line so it
>> was free to drop as the boat came off the trailer.
>> > Always check to be sure you CB  is locked in the up position before
>> launch -especially with the old style blade CB like mine.
>> > As the boat slid into into the water, I heard an odd crunching sound as
>> the boat first lifted then dropped again.
>> > I did get the boat forward on the trailer and pulled it out before I
>> realized what happened.
>> > Once on the pavement, I noticed a huge amount of water drain from the
>> CB - scratching my head, I looked inside and nearly had a heart attack.
>> >
>> > The photos explains what happed.
>> > It took me all winter to fix it.
>> > The CB and rudder are the two most vulnerable parts on a Rhodes 22.
>> > Understand and Respect the way they work and always be careful when
>> launching and when backing up in shallow water.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> > ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> > O -631-283-1777
>> > C- 516-965-3164
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Dec 20, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Reuben,
>> >>
>> >> That doesn't sound like a crazy idea to me...
>> >>
>> >> Peter Nyberg
>> >> Coventry, CT
>> >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> >>
>> >>>> On 2023-12-20, at 08:56:56 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> In casting about for possible causes of the rather large (~2ft, to
>> >>> the top of the settee) flood into my boat I started wondering about
>> >>> the swing keel...in particular, what happens when the boat lies on
>> >>> the ground? The day of my flood had a particularly low tide, in part
>> >>> because of winds pushing water out of the bay. I suspect my boat
>> >>> spent some time lying on the mud at the bottom of my slip and I'm
>> >>> wondering if that might have pushed the swing keel up into the top
>> >>> of the centerboard trunk, possibly flexing it and causing a leak.
>> >>> Given the 50 or so screws that hold the top down that is unlikely
>> >>> but..... The boat is floating now and I can't find a leak (thru
>> >>> hulls are OK and I don't see water on top of the centerboard trunk).
>> ...so I"m grasping at straws.
>> >>> --Reuben
>> >>> Reuben Mezrich
>> >>> cell: 410-499-8922
>> >>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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