[Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin

Sat Jan 27 15:51:43 EST 2024

Yes, that is how mine looks.

Graham

Agile 1976

On 1/27/2024 1:35 PM, Reuben Mezrich wrote:
> So my boat finally got hauled (Holidays got in the way) and I'm now able to
> see the keel. As seen in the image about 2 inches of the aft portion hang
> down below the fixed portion of the keel....is this normal
> [image: image.png]
> Reuben Mezrich
> cell: 410-499-8922
> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 6:49 PM Reuben Mezrich<reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike
>> Great point but....
>> The same argument would be obtained with tasting the water. I'm not sure,
>> given your argument, how you could ever determine the source of the water
>> in the bilge
>> I"ve had the boat 3 years now and never had even a drop of water in the
>> bilge.
>> We had torrential rains this weekend and no new water collected in the
>> bilge.
>> Its a puzzle
>> --Reuben
>>
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> cell: 410-499-8922
>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael D. Weisner<mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Reuben,
>>>
>>> Testing the bilge for the presence of salt using a salinity meter sounded
>>> great until I thought about it a bit more.
>>>
>>> If salt water had ever been in the bilge, there would be salt left after
>>> evaporation of the water. When a new source of water filled the bilge, the
>>> dried salt would contaminate the water, making it appear to have come from
>>> a leak below the waterline. This could explain why the salinity was greater
>>> than that of the body of water within which the boat floats. The salinity
>>> test may not have ruled out rain water intrusion.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list<rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>  On Behalf Of
>>> Reuben Mezrich
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:48 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin
>>>
>>> Ric
>>> I’m liking your sabotage theory more and more (I did win some races last
>>> week). I measured the salinity and its seawater and besides we had
>>> torrential rain this weekend and no additional water came in.
>>> It’s time to remove that step and look at the center board trunk more
>>> carefully Reuben Mezrich
>>> Cell:410-499-8922
>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay in Boston
>>>
>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ric Stott<ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> FRUSTRATING, RIGHT?
>>>> I’m thinking rain water or sabotage.
>>>> I’m having trouble with the idea that the  cap could leak that much -
>>> and then not leak at all.
>>>> Attached are photos of what happens when too much pressure is put on
>>> the centerboard cap.
>>>> When i inherited my ’84 rhodes, it had  a crack in the cap right above
>>> the pivot pin.
>>>> Obviously from the CB hitting the cap from the underside.
>>>> It leaked a little - about a quart or two per day.
>>>> I simply fiberglassed the crack and the leak stopped In the fall of
>>>> 2019, I retrieved the boat onto the trailer and it was initially too
>>> far back so I relaunched to move it forward.
>>>> I did not realize that a helper had released the CB pendant line so it
>>> was free to drop as the boat came off the trailer.
>>>> Always check to be sure you CB  is locked in the up position before
>>> launch -especially with the old style blade CB like mine.
>>>> As the boat slid into into the water, I heard an odd crunching sound as
>>> the boat first lifted then dropped again.
>>>> I did get the boat forward on the trailer and pulled it out before I
>>> realized what happened.
>>>> Once on the pavement, I noticed a huge amount of water drain from the
>>> CB - scratching my head, I looked inside and nearly had a heart attack.
>>>> The photos explains what happed.
>>>> It took me all winter to fix it.
>>>> The CB and rudder are the two most vulnerable parts on a Rhodes 22.
>>>> Understand and Respect the way they work and always be careful when
>>> launching and when backing up in shallow water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> O -631-283-1777
>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Peter Nyberg<peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Reuben,
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't sound like a crazy idea to me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2023-12-20, at 08:56:56 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote:
>>>>>> In casting about for possible causes of the rather large (~2ft, to
>>>>>> the top of the settee) flood into my boat I started wondering about
>>>>>> the swing keel...in particular, what happens when the boat lies on
>>>>>> the ground? The day of my flood had a particularly low tide, in part
>>>>>> because of winds pushing water out of the bay. I suspect my boat
>>>>>> spent some time lying on the mud at the bottom of my slip and I'm
>>>>>> wondering if that might have pushed the swing keel up into the top
>>>>>> of the centerboard trunk, possibly flexing it and causing a leak.
>>>>>> Given the 50 or so screws that hold the top down that is unlikely
>>>>>> but..... The boat is floating now and I can't find a leak (thru
>>>>>> hulls are OK and I don't see water on top of the centerboard trunk).
>>> ...so I"m grasping at straws.
>>>>>> --Reuben
>>>>>> Reuben Mezrich
>>>>>> cell: 410-499-8922
>>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Graham Stewart gstewart.gm at gmail.com