[Rhodes22-list] Mast step issues?

[Matt Wilson]

Thanks Roger.  That makes sense.  My Boatworks guy is coming to look at it
on Saturday and I will report back.

David, I hope you recover quickly from the Crud.  DO reach out when you're
better.  I would love to meet you in person.  Ironically, I spotted youy
boat yesterday on Lake Nokomis.  I was on my way to the airport with some
time to kill.  Looks beautiful!

Matt

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:31 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Matt,
>
> The stringers that support the cabin sole are not strong enough to support
> the load from the mast.  That’s in addition to the weight of the crew.  I
> don’t recommend what you are proposing.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978. Sanford, MI
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:05 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have been perusing the archives about this and not finding pictures or
> > links that aren't expired or broken somehow.  If anyone can post pics of
> > how they tied into the hull/keel below and the cabin ceiling under the
> mast
> > that would be super helpful.
> >
> > I am wondering if using the cabin sole for a temporary fix is imprudent,
> > thoughts?  If I shim several places underneath it to spread the load?
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:45 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've just gotten some time to catch up and review the photos in detail.
> >> I'm not familiar with the 'swell head'. First time I've even heard the
> term
> >> in reference to the Rhodes.  But I agree with Peter's third point, the
> >> compression post looks to be well forward of the mast.  A look at the
> mast
> >> in relation to the port and the compression post in relation to the same
> >> port shows several inches of offset and as Peter suggests, unless that
> load
> >> can be transferred by the decking, it's going to distort.  Just my 2
> cents.
> >>
> >> Rob
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> >> Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 9:08 AM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast step issues?
> >>
> >> I've just gone back through this whole thread to try to make sense of
> it.
> >> I've reached some conclusions:
> >>
> >> 1) There obviously _is_ a compression post.
> >>
> >> 2) This boat is configured with the fully enclosed 'swell head'.
> >>
> >> 3) Based on pictures and the attached 'floor plan', it seems that the
> >> compression post in a 'swell head' layout is well forward of the of the
> >> position it occupies in the 'standard' layout. Perhaps someone else
> with a
> >> 'swell head' layout can confirm.
> >>
> >> 4) This also puts the compression post well forward of the mast (way too
> >> far forward for my liking).
> >>
> >> 5) In general, it seems that this arrangement works anyway, but is
> clearly
> >> failing on Matt's boat.
> >>
> >> 6) But, in order for this to work, the deck needs to be very strong in
> >> order for it to 'carry' the load from where the mast is to where the
> >> compression post is.
> >>
> >> 7) Matt's deck isn't doing the job.
> >>
> >> So, my guess is there's rot in the deck. Otherwise, it wouldn't bend
> like
> >> that. The possibility that there's also rot under the cabin floor should
> >> obviously be considered as well.
> >>
> >> I have doubts that any reasonable repair could restore the full original
> >> strength of the deck.  Therefor, I think it likely that another
> compression
> >> post more directly under the mast will need to added. (But the deck
> should
> >> be fixed too.)
> >>
> >> That's my best guess, anyway.
> >>
> >> Peter Nyberg
> >> Coventry, CT
> >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> >>
> >>>> On 2024-06-27, at 08:03:19 EDT, Matt Wilson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So you do not see a compression post?   Someone probably removed it?
> >>>
> >>> Matt
> >>>
> >>>
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