Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
Wally Buck
tnrhodey@hotmail.com
Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:42:43 -0500
Roger,
I may have to check out the Back Packer Standard you describe, is this a lid
that fits on pots that buyer supplies or is this pot with lid? It sounds
like just the lid from description.
I have one of the Coleman Folding Oven you mention as well as an old Coleman
two burner stove. These things last for ever, mine are about 20 years old. I
bought spare parts for my stove about ten years ago thinking they would soon
wear out. I still have the spare pieces.
The folding stove can be a little tricky. If you don't overload and rotate
stuff as needed they work well. You can bake bisuits if you keep your eye on
them. I have also baked brownies, other campers get very jealous. I even ran
over mine (it was flat) many years ago, the hinges are a little bent so it
doesn't fold as well as it used to, it still works fine.
I have the original stove in my galley and like others have mentioned you
can't get fuel. I haven't decided what to do for long term replacement but
right now I use my Coleman Stove, it works fine, we have very sheltered
coves.
Thanks,
Wally
>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402@centurytel.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
>Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0500
>
>Anne,
>
>My favorite boating cookbook is:
>
>Terry L. Searfoss, "The Two Burner Gourmet - The Cookbook For Cruising
>Yachtsman", Published by The Two Burner Gourmet, 1800 Wilson Ave., Saginaw,
>MI 48603, 1991
>
>This cookbook is spiral bound so it will lie open flat & the paper seems to
>be pretty water resistant. Terry also devotes some space to galley setup,
>cookware, storage, clean-up, garbage & trash, & meal planning.
>
>For beach camping, you can make some amazing meals & desserts in a cast
>iron
>Dutch oven over a camp fire. My favorite Dutch oven cookbook is:
>
>Sheila Mills, "The Outdoors Dutch Oven Cookbook", Ragged Mountain Press
>Div.
>of McGraw Hill Publishing, Camden, Maine, 1997, ISBN 0-07-043023-3
>
>Extended cruising in our R-22's bears more than a passing similarity to
>camping. Many camping cooking techniques & recipes lend themselves very
>well to life aboard an R-22, especially if you wish to do without
>refrigeration. My favorite camping cookbook is:
>
>John G. Ragsdale, "Camper's Guide To Outdoor Cooking - Tips, Techniques,
>and
>Delicious Eats", Gulf Publishing Co, Houston, TX, 1989, Revised & Reprinted
>in 1995, ISBN 0-87201-626-9
>
>The Boy Scouts of America publishes numerous books & pamphlets re camp
>cooking. Those of you wishing a Cooking 101 course will find these
>publications very helpful because they were intended to teach young Scouts.
>Any of these publications would be available at your local Boy Scout
>Council
>Service Center:
>
>"Camp Cookery For Small Groups - Recipes For Groups Of Eight", 1997, ISBN
>0-8395-3592-9
>
>"Fieldbook - Boy Scouts of America", 3rd Edition, 1984, ISBN 0-8395-3200-8
>Note: The Fieldbook makes especially interesting reading. It has chapters
>explaining how to do almost anything! This is the real life version of the
>"Jr. Woodchuck Handbook" from the Disney cartoon, "Ducktales"!
>
>Boy Scouts of America Merit Badge Pamphlets:
>
>"Backpacking", 2002 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3232-6
>"Camping", 2001 Printing of the 1999 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3256-3
>"Cooking", 2001 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3349-7
>
>Other than the cast iron Dutch oven mentioned above, here are a couple of
>other pieces of cooking equipment you might want to consider:
>
>Coleman Folding Camp Oven - If you have a good stove for a source of heat.
>Once you learn to use one these folding sheet metal ovens on top of your
>galley stove or on shore with a backpacking stove, you will be able to bake
>or roast almost anything. The folding oven knocks down flat for storage.
>It only weighs a couple of pounds & doesn't take up much room folded flat.
>Any good sporting goods store or camping outfitter should be able to sell
>you one of these ovens.
>
>BakePacker Standard (tm) to fit a 7-1/2" to 8" ID round cook pot with a
>tight fitting lid. Manufactured by:
> Strike 2 Industries Inc.
> E. 508 Augusta Ave.
> Spokane, WA 99207
> 509-484-3701
>Note: there is also a smaller version called the BakePacker Ultralight
>(tm),
>which is intended for use with single serving backpacking cookware & is too
>small for most uses aboard the R-22. The BakePacker is shipped with a
>supply of cooking bags & a small instruction/recipe book.
>
>This remarkable little accessory will allow you to bake or roast inside a
>food storage bag or Reynolds Oven Roasting bag over your galley stove or
>backpacking stove. I have used my BakePacker to prepare roast chicken,
>beef
>& pork roasts with tiny carrots, onions, potatoes, & gravy, muffins,
>biscuits, cinnamon sticky buns, corn bread, fudge brownies, chocolate chip
>cookies, etc. Because all the cooking is done inside of a bag, the meal
>prep can be done at home ahead of time, & there is no clean-up. Once you
>learn how to use your BakePacker, you will be able to prepare gourmet meals
>in the middle of nowhere that will just absolutely amaze your crew! My
>wife
>& kids also like it when I try out a new BakePacker recipe on them by
>preparing the dish at home on top of our kitchen stove. Note: The
>BakePacker works best with a gas-fired stove.
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy@netreach.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:15 AM
>Subject: Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
>
>
> > I'd like one. Not sure how much I have to contribute. We've gotten
>lazier
> > and lazier about cooking but I could probably find a few recipes that
>we've
> > tested. When we first started out cruising, the two cookbooks I found to
>be
> > most helpful were "The One Pan Gourmet: Fresh Food on the Trail" by Don
> > Jacobson and "The Two Burner Gourmet: The Cookbook for Cooking Far From
> > Home" by Terry L. Searfoss. Both of them were more helpful for the
>mindset
> > rather than the actual recipes, though I'll probably reread both of them
> > this winter looking for ideas. I think a Rhodes 22 cookbook would be fun
>-
> > especially the idea of testing recipes at gatherings. The only problem
> > might be that most of these recipes are hard to make in quantity - of
> > course everyone could make something different and we could all sample.
> > What I'm really looking for is a "no refrigeration" cookbook. One of our
> > library patrons was talking about one some church group had put
>together.
> > She was going to get me more information but didn't do it and I haven't
>see
> > her in a long time.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> >
> > At 09:12 AM 11/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Anne, Thanks for the cooking notes, I am more hungry now and anxious
>for
> > >summer time to come back. I bought a "Tailgaters" cookbook for my
>brother
> > >(big rams fan) which limited all recipies to that which could be
>prepared
> > >on a small bbq and a coleman stove in the middle of no-where - ie
> > >tailgating parkinglot. It is a great concept since the "authors" are
> > >forced to tell all the logistics involved in preparing a meal under
>these
> > >restrictions.
> > >The recipeis read just like yours. MY IDEA is to make a Cruisers
>Cookbook
> > >- It has been done ( almost to death ) but not with the
> > >Pre-Preparation and all the logisticical comments necessary to cook
> > >multiple Items with only a burner and a BBQ. Some of these even refer
>to
> > >Oven settings - the closest thing I got to an oven is the laz right
>before
> > >the gas tank exploses. Is there any Interest in putting together a
>RHODES
> > >22 Cookbook - I would take care of compiling and printing - We could
> > >"Test" recipies at gatherings. Heck the ideas are flowing. Stan could
> > >give one with the sale of the boat. ANY INTEREST. Bob Weber
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "anima" <anima@apex.net>
> > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking
> > >>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:40:25 -0600
> > >>
> > >>Ok fellas, ya got me on one of my favorite subjects.
> > >>I really think you're on the engineer overkill for this
> > >>power thing.
> > >>I only have charcoal and wished I had purchased the
> > >>propane magma but several years ago this list went through
> > >>such a thing about Ka-Boom that I chickened out. I have
> > >>since cooked on many a boat and have learned the safety
> > >>steps and feel quite comfortable (though always on the alert).
> > >>For a weekend on Pickwick (have sailed and overnighted on that
> > >>great water also) or KY Lake, I believe you just have to plan well.
> > >>As Brad had leaked, I have the one-burner stock GB stove and
> > >>a charcoal magma.
> > >>I do the chicken (or hamburger) on Friday night. This I have in
>marinade
> > >>and nearly frozen, since these are more susceptible.Next is completely
> > >>frozen Pork tenderloin in marinade in ziplock bag for 2nd night. I
>will
> > >>put potatoes in oil and lemon and rosemary in a aluminum foil packet
>and
> > >>ziplock. These I place on the coals as they are started so the
>potatoes
>can
> > >>cook. (If I am really organized, I sometimes precook 'em a ways at
>home.)
> > >>My job hours are long, so rarely get that good!
> > >>I make a mean rice and bean and corn dish (some of you had this at KY)
> > >>and this goes in a foil packet and warms up on the coals prior to meat
> > >>grilling also...you can always leave it on the grill when you put on
>the
> > >>grate.
> > >> I usually save thick pieces of steak for the third day. I have one
>of
>those
> > >>soft sided coolers that fits ontop of the "beer bin" in the refridge.
> > >>I have the side opening door on fridge rather than the 'dig in from
>the
>top"
> > >>that I saw at our gathering on some boats. (I like my side opener
>better,
> > >>but this may be a familiarity issue) Seems easier to get a beer.
> > >>I put one of those pre-frozen packs in the soft sider next to the meat
> > >>along with ice that I replenish through the weekend.
> > >>Many times even in the 90+ weather, I have to remember to get the
> > >>frozen meat out so it will thaw and marinate or we eat very late!
> > >>Often when I come home from store I will marinate the meat before I
> > >>freeze it...Walla! Super organization! I like those days!
> > >>The remainder of side dishes I store in cooler in the ever wonderful
> > >>ziplocks and generally plan for non refridgerated treats. I have
>planty
> > >>of beer storage as Brad already told you and... experienced first
>hand!
> > >>Plenty of room for dinner wine in the V berth shelves.
> > >>Plus, 5 fenders for rafting up with the big boys!
> > >>I always tell 'em.....7.5 foot cockpit...just perfect for a single
>gal.
> > >>Meanwhile they are pretty packed in on their 30+ footer cockpits!
> > >>In the a.m. I use the burner inside with pop-top up for boiling coffee
> > >>water which is my reverse osmosis water from home. I stock gallons
> > >>of these in the lazerette. I use the old Melitta drip. they have a new
>pot
> > >>that is thermal and holds over 8 cups of coffee! $20 on their site.
> > >>(Actually, I gave it to Steve because he liked it so much and it is
>now
> > >>on the "Bright Star" at Marco Island this eve, sailing on its way to
> > >>Guatemala.)
> > >>Guess i'll have to get a new one for my boat.
> > >>Cooking 101,
> > >>Anne
> > >>
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