Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
Roger Pihlaja
cen09402@centurytel.net
Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:13:51 -0500
Wally,
The BakePacker is a special insert that fits inside of a pot with a tight
fitting lid. With the BakePacker Standard, the pot must be round with an ID
of 7-1/2" min to 8" max. & 6" - 8" tall in order for the BakePacker to work
properly. It's best to 1st order your BakePacker, read the instruction
manual, & then go shopping for the pot. Take the BakePacker insert along
when you shop for the pot in order to check fit.
Whether it's baking in a Dutch oven over a campfire, using a Coleman folding
camp oven, or a BakePacker, these things take a little time & practice to
learn to use effectively. None of them are as idiotproof as your microwave
oven or even your convection oven at home. Temperature regulation is el
manual controlo & you're timing things with your wristwatch. Sometimes,
you're not really timing the meal at all, just checking frequently,
adjusting the heat, & turning things for even cooking until it just looks
"done". When cooking with these devices, you have to pay strict attention
to what you're doing & not let yourself get distracted. It's best to
practice a few times at home before you depend upon any of these devices for
a meal you really have to eat out in the middle of nowhere!
But, on the other hand, you should see the look in people's eyes when you
pop a full size pineapple upside down cake out of a Dutch oven that they
just watched you bake over a campfire! Personally, I prefer fresh baked
fudge brownies with a glass of a good stout burgundy to go with a pretty
sunset & good friends with maybe the few loons calling to each other in the
background.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey@hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
> Roger,
>
> I may have to check out the Back Packer Standard you describe, is this a
lid
> that fits on pots that buyer supplies or is this pot with lid? It sounds
> like just the lid from description.
>
> I have one of the Coleman Folding Oven you mention as well as an old
Coleman
> two burner stove. These things last for ever, mine are about 20 years old.
I
> bought spare parts for my stove about ten years ago thinking they would
soon
> wear out. I still have the spare pieces.
>
> The folding stove can be a little tricky. If you don't overload and rotate
> stuff as needed they work well. You can bake bisuits if you keep your eye
on
> them. I have also baked brownies, other campers get very jealous. I even
ran
> over mine (it was flat) many years ago, the hinges are a little bent so it
> doesn't fold as well as it used to, it still works fine.
>
> I have the original stove in my galley and like others have mentioned you
> can't get fuel. I haven't decided what to do for long term replacement but
> right now I use my Coleman Stove, it works fine, we have very sheltered
> coves.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wally
>
> >From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402@centurytel.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
> >Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0500
> >
> >Anne,
> >
> >My favorite boating cookbook is:
> >
> >Terry L. Searfoss, "The Two Burner Gourmet - The Cookbook For Cruising
> >Yachtsman", Published by The Two Burner Gourmet, 1800 Wilson Ave.,
Saginaw,
> >MI 48603, 1991
> >
> >This cookbook is spiral bound so it will lie open flat & the paper seems
to
> >be pretty water resistant. Terry also devotes some space to galley
setup,
> >cookware, storage, clean-up, garbage & trash, & meal planning.
> >
> >For beach camping, you can make some amazing meals & desserts in a cast
> >iron
> >Dutch oven over a camp fire. My favorite Dutch oven cookbook is:
> >
> >Sheila Mills, "The Outdoors Dutch Oven Cookbook", Ragged Mountain Press
> >Div.
> >of McGraw Hill Publishing, Camden, Maine, 1997, ISBN 0-07-043023-3
> >
> >Extended cruising in our R-22's bears more than a passing similarity to
> >camping. Many camping cooking techniques & recipes lend themselves very
> >well to life aboard an R-22, especially if you wish to do without
> >refrigeration. My favorite camping cookbook is:
> >
> >John G. Ragsdale, "Camper's Guide To Outdoor Cooking - Tips, Techniques,
> >and
> >Delicious Eats", Gulf Publishing Co, Houston, TX, 1989, Revised &
Reprinted
> >in 1995, ISBN 0-87201-626-9
> >
> >The Boy Scouts of America publishes numerous books & pamphlets re camp
> >cooking. Those of you wishing a Cooking 101 course will find these
> >publications very helpful because they were intended to teach young
Scouts.
> >Any of these publications would be available at your local Boy Scout
> >Council
> >Service Center:
> >
> >"Camp Cookery For Small Groups - Recipes For Groups Of Eight", 1997, ISBN
> >0-8395-3592-9
> >
> >"Fieldbook - Boy Scouts of America", 3rd Edition, 1984, ISBN
0-8395-3200-8
> >Note: The Fieldbook makes especially interesting reading. It has
chapters
> >explaining how to do almost anything! This is the real life version of
the
> >"Jr. Woodchuck Handbook" from the Disney cartoon, "Ducktales"!
> >
> >Boy Scouts of America Merit Badge Pamphlets:
> >
> >"Backpacking", 2002 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3232-6
> >"Camping", 2001 Printing of the 1999 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3256-3
> >"Cooking", 2001 Edition, ISBN 0-8395-3349-7
> >
> >Other than the cast iron Dutch oven mentioned above, here are a couple of
> >other pieces of cooking equipment you might want to consider:
> >
> >Coleman Folding Camp Oven - If you have a good stove for a source of
heat.
> >Once you learn to use one these folding sheet metal ovens on top of your
> >galley stove or on shore with a backpacking stove, you will be able to
bake
> >or roast almost anything. The folding oven knocks down flat for storage.
> >It only weighs a couple of pounds & doesn't take up much room folded
flat.
> >Any good sporting goods store or camping outfitter should be able to sell
> >you one of these ovens.
> >
> >BakePacker Standard (tm) to fit a 7-1/2" to 8" ID round cook pot with a
> >tight fitting lid. Manufactured by:
> > Strike 2 Industries Inc.
> > E. 508 Augusta Ave.
> > Spokane, WA 99207
> > 509-484-3701
> >Note: there is also a smaller version called the BakePacker Ultralight
> >(tm),
> >which is intended for use with single serving backpacking cookware & is
too
> >small for most uses aboard the R-22. The BakePacker is shipped with a
> >supply of cooking bags & a small instruction/recipe book.
> >
> >This remarkable little accessory will allow you to bake or roast inside a
> >food storage bag or Reynolds Oven Roasting bag over your galley stove or
> >backpacking stove. I have used my BakePacker to prepare roast chicken,
> >beef
> >& pork roasts with tiny carrots, onions, potatoes, & gravy, muffins,
> >biscuits, cinnamon sticky buns, corn bread, fudge brownies, chocolate
chip
> >cookies, etc. Because all the cooking is done inside of a bag, the meal
> >prep can be done at home ahead of time, & there is no clean-up. Once you
> >learn how to use your BakePacker, you will be able to prepare gourmet
meals
> >in the middle of nowhere that will just absolutely amaze your crew! My
> >wife
> >& kids also like it when I try out a new BakePacker recipe on them by
> >preparing the dish at home on top of our kitchen stove. Note: The
> >BakePacker works best with a gas-fired stove.
> >
> >Roger Pihlaja
> >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy@netreach.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:15 AM
> >Subject: Cookbooks (was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking)
> >
> >
> > > I'd like one. Not sure how much I have to contribute. We've gotten
> >lazier
> > > and lazier about cooking but I could probably find a few recipes that
> >we've
> > > tested. When we first started out cruising, the two cookbooks I found
to
> >be
> > > most helpful were "The One Pan Gourmet: Fresh Food on the Trail" by
Don
> > > Jacobson and "The Two Burner Gourmet: The Cookbook for Cooking Far
From
> > > Home" by Terry L. Searfoss. Both of them were more helpful for the
> >mindset
> > > rather than the actual recipes, though I'll probably reread both of
them
> > > this winter looking for ideas. I think a Rhodes 22 cookbook would be
fun
> >-
> > > especially the idea of testing recipes at gatherings. The only problem
> > > might be that most of these recipes are hard to make in quantity - of
> > > course everyone could make something different and we could all
sample.
> > > What I'm really looking for is a "no refrigeration" cookbook. One of
our
> > > library patrons was talking about one some church group had put
> >together.
> > > She was going to get me more information but didn't do it and I
haven't
> >see
> > > her in a long time.
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > > Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> > >
> > > At 09:12 AM 11/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >Anne, Thanks for the cooking notes, I am more hungry now and anxious
> >for
> > > >summer time to come back. I bought a "Tailgaters" cookbook for my
> >brother
> > > >(big rams fan) which limited all recipies to that which could be
> >prepared
> > > >on a small bbq and a coleman stove in the middle of no-where - ie
> > > >tailgating parkinglot. It is a great concept since the "authors" are
> > > >forced to tell all the logistics involved in preparing a meal under
> >these
> > > >restrictions.
> > > >The recipeis read just like yours. MY IDEA is to make a Cruisers
> >Cookbook
> > > >- It has been done ( almost to death ) but not with the
> > > >Pre-Preparation and all the logisticical comments necessary to cook
> > > >multiple Items with only a burner and a BBQ. Some of these even
refer
> >to
> > > >Oven settings - the closest thing I got to an oven is the laz right
> >before
> > > >the gas tank exploses. Is there any Interest in putting together a
> >RHODES
> > > >22 Cookbook - I would take care of compiling and printing - We could
> > > >"Test" recipies at gatherings. Heck the ideas are flowing. Stan
could
> > > >give one with the sale of the boat. ANY INTEREST. Bob Weber
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "anima" <anima@apex.net>
> > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cooking
> > > >>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:40:25 -0600
> > > >>
> > > >>Ok fellas, ya got me on one of my favorite subjects.
> > > >>I really think you're on the engineer overkill for this
> > > >>power thing.
> > > >>I only have charcoal and wished I had purchased the
> > > >>propane magma but several years ago this list went through
> > > >>such a thing about Ka-Boom that I chickened out. I have
> > > >>since cooked on many a boat and have learned the safety
> > > >>steps and feel quite comfortable (though always on the alert).
> > > >>For a weekend on Pickwick (have sailed and overnighted on that
> > > >>great water also) or KY Lake, I believe you just have to plan well.
> > > >>As Brad had leaked, I have the one-burner stock GB stove and
> > > >>a charcoal magma.
> > > >>I do the chicken (or hamburger) on Friday night. This I have in
> >marinade
> > > >>and nearly frozen, since these are more susceptible.Next is
completely
> > > >>frozen Pork tenderloin in marinade in ziplock bag for 2nd night. I
> >will
> > > >>put potatoes in oil and lemon and rosemary in a aluminum foil packet
> >and
> > > >>ziplock. These I place on the coals as they are started so the
> >potatoes
> >can
> > > >>cook. (If I am really organized, I sometimes precook 'em a ways at
> >home.)
> > > >>My job hours are long, so rarely get that good!
> > > >>I make a mean rice and bean and corn dish (some of you had this at
KY)
> > > >>and this goes in a foil packet and warms up on the coals prior to
meat
> > > >>grilling also...you can always leave it on the grill when you put on
> >the
> > > >>grate.
> > > >> I usually save thick pieces of steak for the third day. I have one
> >of
> >those
> > > >>soft sided coolers that fits ontop of the "beer bin" in the
refridge.
> > > >>I have the side opening door on fridge rather than the 'dig in from
> >the
> >top"
> > > >>that I saw at our gathering on some boats. (I like my side opener
> >better,
> > > >>but this may be a familiarity issue) Seems easier to get a beer.
> > > >>I put one of those pre-frozen packs in the soft sider next to the
meat
> > > >>along with ice that I replenish through the weekend.
> > > >>Many times even in the 90+ weather, I have to remember to get the
> > > >>frozen meat out so it will thaw and marinate or we eat very late!
> > > >>Often when I come home from store I will marinate the meat before I
> > > >>freeze it...Walla! Super organization! I like those days!
> > > >>The remainder of side dishes I store in cooler in the ever wonderful
> > > >>ziplocks and generally plan for non refridgerated treats. I have
> >planty
> > > >>of beer storage as Brad already told you and... experienced first
> >hand!
> > > >>Plenty of room for dinner wine in the V berth shelves.
> > > >>Plus, 5 fenders for rafting up with the big boys!
> > > >>I always tell 'em.....7.5 foot cockpit...just perfect for a single
> >gal.
> > > >>Meanwhile they are pretty packed in on their 30+ footer cockpits!
> > > >>In the a.m. I use the burner inside with pop-top up for boiling
coffee
> > > >>water which is my reverse osmosis water from home. I stock gallons
> > > >>of these in the lazerette. I use the old Melitta drip. they have a
new
> >pot
> > > >>that is thermal and holds over 8 cups of coffee! $20 on their site.
> > > >>(Actually, I gave it to Steve because he liked it so much and it is
> >now
> > > >>on the "Bright Star" at Marco Island this eve, sailing on its way to
> > > >>Guatemala.)
> > > >>Guess i'll have to get a new one for my boat.
> > > >>Cooking 101,
> > > >>Anne
> > > >>
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